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Posted: January 2, 2011 12:56 pmTop
   
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Let us discuss the topic of +1 on raids.

Personally i think its stupid. It's the same as normal bh/pvp worlds, except you have a shitload of 1 itemers, who smash our magers.

I was fine with the idea of +1 worlds on raids, as i was under the impression that once we go +1 on raids, it isnt mandatory anymore.

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I believe +1 worlds should be banned on raids as 1 itemers hit us and it isn't much better than bh worlds because the only extra kills we get are 1 itemers.

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Should +1 worlds be allowed on raids?

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Posted: January 2, 2011 12:57 pmTop
   
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Must admit i agree.
If everyone maged it be fine but as not everyone does it just means a few of us get smashed whilst the rest of you profit.

 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:01 pmTop
   
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No. If you dont have a +1 item you get no kills, if you Tb/Mage you will get smashed by 1 itemers with claws/sgs/dds. Only a few people profit in +1. When we do rape in +1 we stay in that spot, more people return with 1 items and keep smashing us. Be fast, dont hang around, we are there to dominate, not to kill 1 itemers.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:06 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Zooby69 @ January 03, 2011 12:01 am)
No. If you dont have a +1 item you get no kills, if you Tb/Mage you will get smashed by 1 itemers with claws/sgs/dds. Only a few people profit in +1. When we do rape in +1 we stay in that spot, more people return with 1 items and keep smashing us. Be fast, dont hang around, we are there to dominate, not to kill 1 itemers.

so, you are saying we shouldn't be allowed?

Can you say which lols.

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f you dont have a +1 item you get no kills, if you Tb/Mage you will get smashed by 1 itemers with claws/sgs/dds. Only a few people profit in +1.


which makes me think you dont want +1 worlds on raid


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Be fast, dont hang around, we are there to dominate, not to kill 1 itemers


which makes me think you want to keep doing it, as long as they dont stop moving? blink.gif
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:10 pmTop
   
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I meant No. the second part was just in general.
 
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RAIDS? WHAT ARE THESE, IM INACTIVE AND SKIP
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:15 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Zemus3654 @ January 03, 2011 12:13 am)
RAIDS? WHAT ARE THESE, IM INACTIVE AND SKIP

Orthux removed that option LOL
 
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+1 is fine when there is no action on pvp/normal bh worlds.
If they bring back old wildy it's going to be full of 1 items again so get used to it, you just need to learn to pray melee as soon as they one itemers appear.
you say you need a spec wepon but for the first kill i had all i used was mage and i've been on lots of +1 raids where rangers get kills as people pray melee to protect themselfs against the specs.
it's just for the last raid we probably should have moved out after the 1 itemers kept hitting us in the fight.

edit: ffs ment to click no. the entire reason we went to +1 was to find action as there was none on the pvp/bh worlds, and then we found a clan to fight.

 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:20 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Pyroclastic0 @ January 03, 2011 12:16 am)
+1 is fine when there is no action on pvp/normal bh worlds.
If they bring back old wildy it's going to be full of 1 items again so get used to it, you just need to learn to pray melee as soon as they one itemers appear.
you say you need a spec wepon but for the first kill i had all i used was mage and i've been on lots of +1 raids where rangers get kills as people pray melee to protect themselfs against the specs.
it's just for the last raid we probably should have moved out after the 1 itemers kept hitting us in the fight.

well, i thew few times i have stuck around for +1 on raids, i dont see a higher amount of kills than we do get on normal bh/pvp worlds. and im not including killing 1 itemers.

If the one itemers brought some gear with them, and some food, it'll be different. But they are just there being a nuiscense, and thats not something i want when it can be avoided.

Also, if we would stick around and fight clans instead of doing cwa-bh trips, we wouldn't need to discuss this dry.gif
 
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I'm okay with it to be honest.
If i get decket by a clawer/Ags I'm not gonna cry about it. I'll just regear, lol.
 
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I personally prefer non+1 on raids however when it comes down to getting a few kills an hour if were lucky or having a lot more action in +1 as there are always more people in +1 even today. +1 should not be banned you dont need a +1 to get kills gary got the most kills today and all he had was a rune cbow and he used a darkbow on occasion but there easily affordable. While 1 itemers can be a problem they arnt usually people play it up alot more than it is. While +1 is not utopia with the wilderness returning we have to get used to it.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:31 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Fbi3255 @ January 03, 2011 12:23 am)
I personally prefer non+1 on raids however when it comes down to getting a few kills an hour if were lucky or having a lot more action in +1 as there are always more people in +1 even today. +1 should not be banned you dont need a +1 to get kills gary got the most kills today and all he had was a rune cbow and he used a darkbow on occasion but there easily affordable. While 1 itemers can be a problem they arnt usually people play it up alot more than it is. While +1 is not utopia with the wilderness returning we have to get used to it.

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Well, this is a poll for the members, and so far, the result speaks for itself. Anything more than 50% is way too much. If we can be on normal BH or PVP worlds, and not have to deal with 1 itemers, why would we want to go on +1?

And unlike what some people think, I personally raid for clan success, not kills.

I would rather be on a raid where we dominate the wilderness, and everyone knows that we were the best out there, instead of everyone complaining about not getting kills and demanding 76k's afterwards.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:32 pmTop
   
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I personally don't like it. Although we might get more action, I feel like it's pointless action in terms of a raid.

However, in terms of the clan growing and piles, etc. I think it's great. Tonight was probably the most organized I had seen us on a raid and it was great, we all did what we were told, made quick piles, etc. which was cool. But when there was piles of people running back with some food and an AGS/Claws it because were boring and irritating which at that point ruins it for me.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:36 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson @ January 02, 2011 08:31 am)
QUOTE: Fbi3255 January 03, 2011 12:23 am
I personally prefer non+1 on raids however when it comes down to getting a few kills an hour if were lucky or having a lot more action in +1 as there are always more people in +1 even today. +1 should not be banned you dont need a +1 to get kills gary got the most kills today and all he had was a rune cbow and he used a darkbow on occasion but there easily affordable. While 1 itemers can be a problem they arnt usually people play it up alot more than it is. While +1 is not utopia with the wilderness returning we have to get used to it.

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Well, this is a poll for the members, and so far, the result speaks for itself. Anything more than 50% is way too much. If we can be on normal BH or PVP worlds, and not have to deal with 1 itemers, why would we want to go on +1?

And unlike what some people think, I personally raid for clan success, not kills.

I would rather be on a raid where we dominate the wilderness, and everyone knows that we were the best out there, instead of everyone complaining about not getting kills and demanding 76k's afterwards.

To be the best we have to dominate every world, Not just the ones we prefer. Either way when the wilderness comes back so will every single person with their +1. If we struggle with this now how will we handle it when every world is like that. We get more kills in +1 anyone that goes there knows that. I offered today and people took it usually its worse when we just stay in non +1. Noone likes 1itemers jayson but its inevitable.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:44 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Fbi3255 @ January 03, 2011 12:36 am)
QUOTE: Jayson January 02, 2011 08:31 am
       
QUOTE: Fbi3255  January 03, 2011 12:23 am
I personally prefer non+1 on raids however when it comes down to getting a few kills an hour if were lucky or having a lot more action in +1 as there are always more people in +1 even today. +1 should not be banned you dont need a +1 to get kills gary got the most kills today and all he had was a rune cbow and he used a darkbow on occasion but there easily affordable. While 1 itemers can be a problem they arnt usually people play it up alot more than it is. While +1 is not utopia with the wilderness returning we have to get used to it.

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It helps alot.


Well, this is a poll for the members, and so far, the result speaks for itself. Anything more than 50% is way too much. If we can be on normal BH or PVP worlds, and not have to deal with 1 itemers, why would we want to go on +1?

And unlike what some people think, I personally raid for clan success, not kills.

I would rather be on a raid where we dominate the wilderness, and everyone knows that we were the best out there, instead of everyone complaining about not getting kills and demanding 76k's afterwards.

To be the best we have to dominate every world, Not just the ones we prefer. Either way when the wilderness comes back so will every single person with their +1. If we struggle with this now how will we handle it when every world is like that. We get more kills in +1 anyone that goes there knows that. I offered today and people took it usually its worse when we just stay in non +1. Noone likes 1itemers jayson but its inevitable.

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And for the moment being, there is worlds, where it is avoidable.

Also as the leader of the raid, you should have relised that when you asked if people didn't want to go to +1, post in cc, and nearly half the raid attendance said they didn't want to go, you probably shouldn't go.


And who knows what they will change when they bring back old wilderness.

They said they might incorporate previous PvP and BH world functions into the change.

For the time being, I personally think +1 worlds should be at the minimum optional.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:49 pmTop
   
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Jayson stop trolling. You want this thread to be taken seriously and you troll a raid leader.
 
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Jayson troll again and ill give another 20%

I asked noone really made a fuss about it. We went got quite a few kills some nice piles and had a good time. Eventually we left because we got a bit overmanned by Jaja we needed a few more to dominate and thats why a few people died. Jayson the PVP/Bh system might be at a later date its a chance, most likely it wont atleast for a while. I agree with you dude but we made a choice, i told gene not to give you a warn cause you had been around with us for like a hour ask Josh. Im serious about the 20% thing.
 
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QUOTE: Zooby69 @ January 03, 2011 12:49 am)
Jayson stop trolling. You want this thread to be taken seriously and you troll a raid leader.

im not trolling, im just saying it would make it easier to read if he used proper grammer but who cares then ill just type like this too because im 12 and who needs proper grammer but on topic Zurvivor if it was about me being poor and losing money I would have said that I have enough cash and sets to return a thousand times easy but its not about that its about the principle of not having people die to 1 itemers when we can sit in regular bh worlds where the worst we have to deal with is people jumping out of safe and attacking us and running back in.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 01:58 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Fbi3255 @ January 03, 2011 12:54 am)
Jayson troll again and ill give another 20%

I asked noone really made a fuss about it. We went got quite a few kills some nice piles and had a good time. Eventually we left because we got a bit overmanned by Jaja we needed a few more to dominate and thats why a few people died. Jayson the PVP/Bh system might be at a later date its a chance, most likely it wont atleast for a while. I agree with you dude but we made a choice, i told gene not to give you a warn cause you had been around with us for like a hour ask Josh. Im serious about the 20% thing.

No one made a fuss about it? Me, Keanu and somebody else said no when you asked, then you said we are going to +1, totally ignoring us. Then after you said that we are going +1, more people, including which Zooby, said they didn't want to go.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 02:24 pmTop
   
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no more raiding only clan fights in cwa from now on as wilderness is too dangerous and I don't want to lose sets to anyone in welfare gear.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 02:33 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Pyroclastic0 @ January 03, 2011 01:24 am)
no more raiding only clan fights in cwa from now on as wilderness is too dangerous and I don't want to lose sets to anyone in welfare gear.

im talking about pkri's. everyone does it, except we run/log/teleport
 
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QUOTE: Jayson January 02, 2011 02:33 pm
       
QUOTE: Pyroclastic0  January 03, 2011 01:24 am
no more raiding only clan fights in cwa from now on as wilderness is too dangerous and I don't want to lose sets to anyone in welfare gear.

im talking about pkri's. everyone does it, except we run/log/teleport

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+1 should really be based on who's on the raid at the time. If most of the people want to go then go, if not don't go or just end.
 
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i think we should use the +1 worlds only if the other worlds are dead, and if the majority are for it at the time.

Can i mention, when we regroup we are always regrouping at the bh stairs.
This is ok, but it's messy. Like just before i had to go yesterday, no one even got a fi after Welf made us run to safe....we all just waited at the bottom of the stairs where it became disorganised.

May i ask on the topic of raiding, how mandatory are raids. As, yesterday we had someone (not going to mention his name) saying he couldn't come as he promised his sister he would be at her 99 party. So how mandatory are they, and maybe enforce raids more as we keep getting pushed around by bigger clans at the moment. (Brut ect.)
 
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Vulcan Raids are mandatory except for personal situations and its up to the leaders at the time to choose how to manage that,
 
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