You have no concept of the proof we have mounted to suggest he is a spy.
I don't care how tight he was with you.
He is a spy without question.
 
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I do not think any evidence is 100%, it only becomes so close to 100% that is ridiculous to think otherwise.

Short of having an IP match, I do not see how you could have near-100% evidence that it was from Mager's account. Even if there is an IP match, Lordy has said that the information was supplied by Mugger. In that case if Mugger somehow knew Mager's IP address (say he wrote down a few of them before he left) then he could fabricate information implicating that Mager leaked info in order to get ex-member back.

I am not saying that is the case, or even likely, but just trying to show how that even the most seemingly solid evidence can have limitations.

I understand that you need to keep your methods secret, and I am willing to trust that the evidence you have is solid, however what I do not trust is that you are going to hold that evidence up to the same amount of scrutiny that members would if it was made public. I am not saying you should make the evidence public, but if a number of members are casting doubt upon Mager being a spy, I think the proper response is to say you will look further into the evidence and not simply dismiss their worries with claims your evidence is 100%.

I suppose I could just opt to see the evidence myself like Lordy has offered, however I would rather not in case it becomes a liability for me in the future (for example if the method was leaked and there was a witch hunt to find out who did it).
 
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What's your good reason? I think this whole month has been full of shit reasons.
 
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July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011

You have no concept of the proof we have mounted to suggest he is a spy.
I don't care how tight he was with you.
He is a spy without question.

It's not because he was "tight" with me, it's cause he was a good member and doesn't really have any motives to be a spy after being here so long. What if the government (using the American one in this case) arrested a loved, trust worthy governor for no reason without any explanations? Questions need to be answered at times like this when such a character gets banned without proof to the public. It's not fair for us, how do we know this isn't just like the Salem which trials? Technically you could say "you're it" ban someone and keep it quiet. That's not right.




Brandon
 
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Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG.

I'll always be here for the people that need me.

RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag

I do not think any evidence is 100%, it only becomes so close to 100% that is ridiculous to think otherwise.

Short of having an IP match, I do not see how you could have near-100% evidence that it was from Mager's account. Even if there is an IP match, Lordy has said that the information was supplied by Mugger. In that case if Mugger somehow knew Mager's IP address (say he wrote down a few of them before he left) then he could fabricate information implicating that Mager leaked info in order to get ex-member back.

I am not saying that is the case, or even likely, but just trying to show how that even the most seemingly solid evidence can have limitations.

I understand that you need to keep your methods secret, and I am willing to trust that the evidence you have is solid, however what I do not trust is that you are going to hold that evidence up to the same amount of scrutiny that members would if it was made public. I am not saying you should make the evidence public, but if a number of members are casting doubt upon Mager being a spy, I think the proper response is to say you will look further into the evidence and not simply dismiss their worries with claims your evidence is 100%.

I suppose I could just opt to see the evidence myself like Lordy has offered, however I would rather not in case it becomes a liability for me in the future (for example if the method was leaked and there was a witch hunt to find out who did it).

Lordy may not like this, but I am going to say that it is not an IP match(IPs are not nearly as good as you may think), but a unique account identifier match - we -know- that mager's account was the one the leaking was done from.

Also, this information is something that I have error-correction algoritms for, and its decyphering methods are complex, such that faking it would be hard even -IF- you knew how I created the info.

I will show you exactly how and where if you need, as I too trust you.


 
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Yeah I was against that too. Why is Lordy taking it so personally? I just believe that information should be disclosed to the public, it won't discredit you in any manner but whatever. The only reason you should be this sensitive is if you doubt your own decision. Fuck what I think right?



Brandon
 
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I'll always be here for the people that need me.

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Yeah I was against that too. Why is Lordy taking it so personally? I just believe that information should be disclosed to the public, it won't discredit you in any manner but whatever. The only reason you should be this sensitive is if you doubt your own decision. Fuck what I think right?



Brandon

As soon as I do that, all the other spies will avoid it, and Robbie's system will collapse.

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Robie, disclose information as you wish.
It is your system and it has always belonged to you.
 
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I don't give a fuck HOW he caught the spy to be honest, I have no idea how his spy catching techniques are directly relevant to the dialogue released by Flippie. Maybe you could explain it to my dumb ass please?




Brandon
 
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Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG.

I'll always be here for the people that need me.

RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag