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Posted: January 2, 2011 03:38 pmTop
   
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If we don't get any action on the other worlds why not hop to +1 to have some fun in the end? Simply don't attack one itemers and leave after you scan the world, don't sit there waiting for something because as you mentioned all it will do is attract one itemers.

Oh, and ALWAYS have protect melee on if you see a white dot. Always.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 04:03 pmTop
   
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Well I've hardly ever seen anything good come out of +1.
As the saying goes, when you raid under him, he is your God, and if you want to cry about it, do it afterward.
If we are told to go +1, we go, and afterward, open up discussion like the one that is happening now.

I don't think it should be done. Lots of one itemers against us, pretty much the only people who risk anything. We always lose much more than we gain.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 04:10 pmTop
   
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I always ancient when on P2P raids now, and like others, +1 worlds often end up in either rol'ing or my death...
+1 bad for mages = should be banned! We can't handle them.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 04:56 pmTop
   
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Oh I got my first Ancient Statuette of Jaja on a +1 world if you're wondering what good can come out of one!
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 05:33 pmTop
   
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These worlds should be used as a last resort, and that's essentially what they are.

If we have a P2P raid scheduled, and we scout the PvP and BH worlds and find nothing in the few minutes it takes to walk from BH to CWA and around the popular spots on each world, what are we supposed to do?

Just end after 45 minutes of absolutely nothing? Or just have some fun in +1 if the majority don't mind.

If you're really raiding for clan success, then it shouldn't matter WHERE we raid, just so long as we're out there and doing damage. The 1-itemers are a problem because we stick around like Zooby said. When we kill a 1-itemer we need to get out of that area.

Sure, the +1 worlds aren't ideal but if it's the difference between having a slightly harder time staying alive, but having some fun or saving one of my sets and walk around for 45 minutes, I'd rather chance the set.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 07:45 pmTop
   
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I really don't mind them. I do +1 with Jordan all the time and it's much better than doing it in other worlds. THEIR DEAD. Id rather go around and get some decent action than just wander around and get EP and tricks after. That isn't pking. That's just taking advantage of the least populated time on RS. If you want clan success, your not gonna get it for being on the worlds that noone is on.

Then again, it's always up to the members. If their not comfortable with praying melee on 1 itemers when we walk past BH, that's their problem.

Theres me 2 cents. Keep it coming
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 07:45 pmTop
   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBiGJKzvcwg

But short term... +1 usually means more action. I say do what we've been doing from the start, which is keeping to BH and PvP worlds, and saving +1 as a last resort if there's no action anywhere else. We can just say "we don't do it that much", but banning it and limiting our options is unneccesary.
 
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[05:42] <%kat> same

Posted: January 2, 2011 09:45 pmTop
   
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i dont think +1 shud be banned but i think we should avoid the main areas where 1 itemers go. like bh and clan wars. we should be hunting down big teams not a group of 3 people. like the main areas are places where people use brawlers. alot of people go there for free 76ks. and if were "protecting" the wilderness we should be going to those areas aswell. not only bh where a bunch of idiots can keep teleing back. ik theres atleast teams of 5+ people in the ruins in +1 worlds where you use smithing brawlers. alot of teams camp there and it would be really fun to rush a clan in that area
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 10:14 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Kat @ January 02, 2011 04:45 pm)
. we should be hunting down big teams

Well we need more numbers to come to raids then. We can't do much if Welf and everyone else outnumber us.
 
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Posted: January 2, 2011 11:11 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Vulcan Sin @ January 02, 2011 11:14 pm)
QUOTE: Kat January 02, 2011 04:45 pm
. we should be hunting down big teams

Well we need more numbers to come to raids then. We can't do much if Welf and everyone else outnumber us.

We also can't do much if we run from every clan we don't have a clear advantage over.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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Posted: January 2, 2011 11:40 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: WG_Keanu @ January 02, 2011 06:11 pm)
QUOTE: Vulcan Sin January 02, 2011 11:14 pm
       
QUOTE: Kat  January 02, 2011 04:45 pm
. we should be hunting down big teams

Well we need more numbers to come to raids then. We can't do much if Welf and everyone else outnumber us.

We also can't do much if we run from every clan we don't have a clear advantage over.

im sorry but alot of teams we run from we can take. ive seen half of us tele out when they had our numbers. if we pulled more numbers to raids then we could take them. and in some situations were caught in a barrage pile and thats how we lose our numbers.
 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 12:17 amTop
   
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As Gorge said, the magers are the people who get hit the worst. They are also the most cruicial members when it comes to raiding and warring.

So it's pretty off putting when you get camped by 1 itemers. It makes me want to range.

And as kat said, we should be hunting teams or clans, not kids eping at stairs. Why not organise a pkri with CL or AA or someone Jordan. Prep it up as the Aussie raid.

Because the Aussie raid is the most boring raid just because all we ever do is go from BH to CWA, kill a few welf, then get rushed by JaJa or someone else -> End raid.
 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 12:20 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Vulcan Sin @ January 02, 2011 05:14 pm)
QUOTE: Kat January 02, 2011 04:45 pm
. we should be hunting down big teams

Well we need more numbers to come to raids then. We can't do much if Welf and everyone else outnumber us.

Dude Welf are easy. With a 5 man team we managed to take down around 12 of them with TD. Their all bitches who ride on the EP train. No audio or organisation alot of the time. Trust me, their nothing.
 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 03:01 amTop
   
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There really is no argument I've ever seen that has made any in WG raid better or have the members that run from a fight stay. You can only try to make staying and fighting till the end something worthwhile. Most don't feel that way, it is sad. Don't worry about losing bank or pixels. Those things will be gone when Runescape ends, what won't leave is achieving something significant as a clan.
 
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QUOTE: VEPHYSAURAS @ January 03, 2011 03:01 am)
There really is no argument I've ever seen that has made any in WG raid better or have the members that run from a fight stay. You can only try to make staying and fighting till the end something worthwhile. Most don't feel that way, it is sad. Don't worry about losing bank or pixels. Those things will be gone when Runescape ends, what won't leave is achieving something significant as a clan.

Real fights would encourage people to stay. When we either get hit by clans who overpower us or or "win" and don't even post nobody is really going to feel any pride.


 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 03:30 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Mark @ January 02, 2011 07:20 pm)
QUOTE: Vulcan Sin January 02, 2011 05:14 pm
       
QUOTE: Kat  January 02, 2011 04:45 pm
. we should be hunting down big teams

Well we need more numbers to come to raids then. We can't do much if Welf and everyone else outnumber us.

Dude Welf are easy. With a 5 man team we managed to take down around 12 of them with TD. Their all bitches who ride on the EP train. No audio or organisation alot of the time. Trust me, their nothing.

agreed. it was a pretty epic fight aswell.
 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 03:36 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe January 02, 2011 10:17 pm
       
QUOTE: VEPHYSAURAS  January 03, 2011 03:01 am
There really is no argument I've ever seen that has made any in WG raid better or have the members that run from a fight stay.  You can only try to make staying and fighting till the end something worthwhile.  Most don't feel that way, it is sad.  Don't worry about losing bank or pixels.  Those things will be gone when Runescape ends, what won't leave is achieving something significant as a clan.

Real fights would encourage people to stay. When we either get hit by clans who overpower us or or "win" and don't even post nobody is really going to feel any pride.

Yeah that is true to, just feels like going through motions fighting same shit clans that get us no motivation. We've been in a rut in pvp for so long I can't remember the last solid pvp win wilderness nor any string of any wins in a random skirmish in wilderness. I don't count wars and even then few and far between.
 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 03:43 amTop
   
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I voted no.
The wilderness as it is now is too limited, I mean 4 worlds in p2p and 4 worlds in f2p to pk in and only 4 in total being non +1?
Just keep it.
 
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Posted: January 3, 2011 09:00 amTop
   
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I bring +1 items into non +1 worlds.
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OT - I don't like +1.
 
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Posted: January 4, 2011 12:45 amTop
   
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What I usually see is that the raid leader says "who will go to +1 world?" The raid basically is over at that point and many people simply leave the ts. Then maybe 5 people go to +1.

For me the thing is that I don't want to change gear. Simple as that. I know I'm alone but once I am all set up, the last thing I want to do is try to figure out what to change. If I could just simply go as I am then it would be different.

Then again if it is like a mandatory thing then I go. If it will make a difference on who will attend and I would be helpful, I would go. Not so set to "NO" that I won't ever go. I do not like +1.
 
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Posted: January 4, 2011 03:31 amTop
   
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QUOTE: rachellove9 @ January 03, 2011 07:45 pm)
For me the thing is that I don't want to change gear. Simple as that. I know I'm alone but once I am all set up, the last thing I want to do is try to figure out what to change. If I could just simply go as I am then it would be different.

You don't nessecarily have to change your gear. Just alot better if you do. Alot of the time that we go +1 i just stay in the same gear.
 
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