All the deaths are terrible tragedies it is not just about the Americans. No one wants to see thousand of people being slaughtered. They would have to be screwed in the head to think that is a great thing. War has it's own issues with death toll.

We weren't at war for the 9/11 attacks. It was a act of terror. No matter who did it, it doesn't change that it was an act of terror. This is the main difference in how we handle our country. There have been mistakes made and terrible acts committed by Americans too. But we punish for it and don't encourage it as a nation.

No one will ever change my mind that losing 3k people on one day as an act of terror is something to ever forget. It is something to remember and mourn for many more years as a country. We have remembrance days for much less death tolls and no one tries to tell us to just forget it and move on. This is so ridiculous.

If you have ever lost a family member to tragedy it takes how ever long it takes to get over it. It's the same thing as a country. NO WHERE have I seen our country as a whole tell other countries to suck it up and move on. We don't interfere with their mourning process so other countries should just back off. It could be another 15 years and is that any one's business other then those who are mourning?

I get tired of hearing the same thing over and over again about well this country lost (insert number). That is a terrible thing for them, but doesn't lessen our own loss. We can be sympathetic to them and they should mourn. I would not take away their opportunity to have memorial services or remembrance days on the calendar or any other thing they need. Why can't they just let us have our days we need?

If Osama's death is so very tragic to other countries they can put it a national holiday and take the day as a memorial to him. Give everyone off for the day. But don't expect us to be happy about it.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

Now i've heard the best of it.

Liberal hippy bullshit.

For those of you who watched an hour long video made by some loser kid in his basement, let me know when you start working for an intelligence agency that deals directly with counter terror, like myself.

Then we can talk.

As for the patriot act. The people who work under it put their jobs, lives and souls on the line when they make a decision to go after someone, and it is NOT taken lightly.
 
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We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love. You plan the wars, you masters of men, plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.

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I highly doubt Peter Joseph is a "loser kid in his basement". You're at the point where your refusal to even consider our side of the story has made you attack the people who make it. That's the first sign of denial - where you know you are wrong but have run out of means to argue it such as valid evidence, and so in an almost childish manner you resort to personal and unrelated insults.

We aren't loser kids in basements, we're US citizens with rights including freedom of speech.

I take the word of my next-door neighbour no more or less seriously than I do someone in a suit who works at the Pentagon.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

This is not the bottom line of the story. You have lost more army personal than this (6000). Just so you know - you lost more then 4500 troops in Iraq, a country that had -nothing- to do with "the war on terror", you decided to invade it because you believed Saddam was a prick. You lost 1500 troops in Afghanistan, thats half your casualties from 9/11 right there.

Certified U.S military intelligence documents have stated that Iraq has lost over 95,000 CIVILIANS in your war on terror. YOURS. Where is their justice?

Your 3000 innocent dead has resulted in over a hundred thousand deaths.

The bottom line is the fact that all these questions have been asked to the U.S government and they have jumped around many of them. Why would you have 14 planes defending the most hated country in the world? Why was the hole in the Pentagon 16 feet wide when a plane is far wider than that. Why have they only released 5 frames? What about this 1 trillion dollars?

Watch the fucking video.

 
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Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart