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 [Accepted]Yingyang06 Application
Posted: August 21, 2008 09:40 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Vephy
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I guess it wasnt official or anything :\
 
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Posted: August 21, 2008 10:19 pmTop
   
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please tell me this is a joke... why is everyone getting so worked up over it. Ive left/rejoined more then anyone here even knows or remembers hell i dont even remember. Just let him in honestly he did good in this clan hes not a bad person. I know lots of you hate him but ive been through what he will soon. Rejoining a clan filled with people that hate you. Just let him in and stop being such a tight ass about it. If you dont personally like him then so be it. Theres no rule in WG that says how many times you can rejoin/leave.
 
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Posted: August 21, 2008 10:26 pmTop
   
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Omar it hurts the clan if someone leaves, i understand why people are saying what they are and they have every right to as it's nout more than what i deserve. At the end of the day yes a fair few hate me and they are the ones who influence the decision. My application has been locked twice and i understand why.
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 06:35 amTop
   


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QUOTE (Robertw56 @ August 21, 2008 12:08 pm)
The vote has been moved to lvl 3, as the vote in lvl 1 had some problems. The leaders will decide if to accept or decline.

seems to me like nearly everyone wants you back but leaders dont want u. i'd support simon coming back
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 12:54 pmTop
   
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seems to me like nearly everyone wants you back but leaders dont want u. i'd support simon coming back


The leaders are plit 50/50 aprox tbh
I personally don't want Simon back because his fishing cape makes me look bad sad.gif <.<
HAI SIMON, I jk i want u back!
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 12:59 pmTop
   
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What happend to "wg is dying" in the lobby just right after you left?
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 01:14 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Zlatan83 @ August 22, 2008 12:59 pm)
What happend to "wg is dying" in the lobby just right after you left?

I left in the heat of the moment, to me WG was going through the same thing that some of my old clans went through. I know i made a mistake by leaving and i am not scared to admit that i have. In the past i have been flamed many times for what i believe and some of it got to me also. My leaving post was made up of some points that i never thought would happen to me, such as bias and power abuse.

I want to show WG that i can do good and that given the chance i will.
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 02:40 pmTop
   
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Yes the vote of the general clan was to keep you Simon and it wasn't until about an hour before the final time that one of the staff decided to call a special meeting and this person said in irc that he had trusted the clan to do the right thing. He disagreed with our decision. Then it was was moved to lvl 3.

I disagreed with this and got threatened.

I fully support that the clan can make wise decisions and did just that on this issue.
Simon should be allowed to join now. Staff had their chance before putting it to a vote with us. We weren't the ones posting the poll. We only did what was asked of us by voting yes or no and stating what our opinion was on the issue. Freedom of choice and speech yet again is disreguarded.

I'm not the only one that feels this way. But fear of being warned or a lvl of warning that can not be appealed will keep alot of people from speaking out. Seems someone needs to view the vary rule that was used to threaten me yesterday.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
~~Colin Powell ~~

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Posted: August 22, 2008 02:44 pmTop
   
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Give him the chance.
I think he's a good man and good guardian.
Some may not want him back but we've taken back worse and they have become outstanding guardians.

I accept your application Simon.
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 02:55 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ August 22, 2008 03:40 pm)
Yes the vote of the general clan was to keep you Simon and it wasn't until about an hour before the final time that one of the staff decided to call a special meeting and this person said in irc that he had trusted the clan to do the right thing.  He disagreed with our decision.  Then it was was moved to lvl 3. 

I disagreed with this and got threatened.

I fully support that the clan can make wise decisions and did just that on this issue.
Simon should be allowed to join now.  Staff had their chance before putting it to a vote with us.  We weren't the ones posting the poll.  We only did what was asked of us by voting yes or no and stating what our opinion was on the issue.  Freedom of choice and speech yet again is disreguarded.

I'm not the only one that feels this way.  But fear of being warned or a lvl of warning that can not be appealed will keep alot of people from speaking out.  Seems someone needs to view the vary rule that was used to threaten me yesterday.

Despite what I've said against you Simon, and how I'm very unsure about whether or not you should be allowed in based on your past, I have to agree that what had happened with the vote was wrong, unfair, and quite honestly insulting.

We were asked simply to vote, yes or no (a vote I nulled by the way) on the matter. When we, the clan made our choice it was simply tossed to the side because we didn't make the "right choice"? This really makes me think about the rights we have in this clan, or at least think we have. We make a decision as a clan by a majority vote, and because some higher ups may not agree it's tossed to the side and given special meeting? I know we voted them into the position they're in, but the minute that poll was placed and we were asked, they had basically given us the responsibility on determining the final outcome, and when it wasn't what some wanted, they took back the reigns. Regardless of the final outcome, even if it's positive there never should have been a special meeting. Our votes should have been valued the first time through.

Simon, as much as it may seem I want you out, that isn't true. I'd be willing to have you back, but I think you just need to go beyond what's being asked of you in this application, and in your actions to prove that you're not faking this. Make us believe this time it's different and I think some will be more inclined to welcome you with open arms.
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 02:58 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Vephy
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ August 22, 2008 09:40 am)

I'm not the only one that feels this way. But fear of being warned or a lvl of warning that can not be appealed will keep alot of people from speaking out. Seems someone needs to view the vary rule that was used to threaten me yesterday.

Yeah agreed, you shouldn't be warned for stating your opinion.
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 03:10 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Yingy
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Joined: December 30, 2007
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I understand David and i will do everything in my power to make sure this time is different that i mean it.
 
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Posted: August 22, 2008 04:29 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Robertw56
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After talk in level 3, we have decided to accept your application to WG but with a couple conditions.

1. You must try your hardest to keep the drama and flaming down to a minimum.

2. This is your last chance at joining WG, if you are to ever leave again, you will be banned on the spot.

The clan was split on votes pretty much on whether to let you in or not. I hope you can resolve the problems you have with 45% of the clan that said no.

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Welcome to The Wilderness Guardians, I hope you have a prosperous stay.

~Robertw56


 
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