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Posted: September 6, 2008 06:03 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Look, everyone's entitled to their own opinions. That's totally cool IMO. But if you guys don't settle down I WILL contact a moderator and ask for this thread to be cleaned up, you're both way off topic. You're more than free to post your own compliment/rant threads but this mine, so STFU. ![]() -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:04 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() | i think your acting like an idiot making a big deal over "+1" pretty sad imo edit: thats the last thing im saying sorry Wayne =/ -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:07 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thankies. ![]() -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:09 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is that all you have for me? You take like 5 minutes to respond, and you can't come back with anything better? You upset me, Sith. Wayne, I'm done too. But I couldn't go without getting the last word. That's just how I am. Also done because Rick told me to leave the kid alone. xD Goodbye. ~Vince. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:12 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() | lol i have a life vince i had to go help my mom... -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:14 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And now you start with flame baits. Nice. ![]() I told Rick and Wayne I would stop, so I will. You should do the same. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:14 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() | i didnt flaimbait all i said was that i had a life -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:15 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Which implies you think I don't have one. In essence, a flame bait. You're trying to make me flame you first so I'm the one who gets the repercussions and it's not going to work, sir. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:16 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() | lol whatever makes you happy -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:23 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | You know, you guys need to quit. Vince, I thank you for voicing your opinion in standing behind me. I could certainly use more friends like you. You're a great guy. Sith, what the hell is your deal? As I stated before, I've never met you, talked to you, hung out with you, messaged you...nothing. So why all the negativity towards me? Are you someone's little messenger boy or what? What a piece of Sith...and I mean that in the nicest possible way. ![]() Karl, it sounds to me as if you're afraid that your canoe would be the first I'd go after. I don't know what's going on with you and these personal digs you like to throw my way lately but I'm sure we'll figure it out. I'm not even thinking about a leadership position yet. There are bigger fish to fry right now. In time, if warranted, and I'm appointed or elected to a leadership position, you will have the same Rick. Nothing will change, I'll still be arrogant, I'll still be vocal, and I'll still look out for the clan's best interest. Now...onto more important things. WAYNE!!!! Where the hell did that come from? You were just upset with me not 2 days ago. lol I love the analogy though, kind of makes me feel like Poseidon, lord of the water. I'm glad that you posted something like this and took the time to actually get to know what OUR roles in WG truly are. I'm definitely not alone, there are others...Lordy, Matt, Jen, Owen and quite a few others. This is what we enjoy doing...however, it seems as the numbers dwindle, the more the other people have to pick up...if that makes sense. I'm just me, I care and I have a soft spot for this clan...always have and always will. There have been times where it was exactly how you explained...especially with ROT. I knew their every move against you and did I hold that in and watch them beat you into submission? No, I came out and did what I had to do to protect the investment, my personal investment, which is WG. My tactics are a little unorthodox but I get the job done and I'm good at it. I'm proud of the accomplishments and I'm proud of the defeats...both have made me a stronger person. If anyone has any doubts to my sincerity, please, come talk to me. You'll find that I'm just like everyone else. I like to have fun and make friends. I love to joke around and stuff...but when push comes to shove and I see/hear something that is trying to steal the soul from WG, I will pounce into action. It's like alot of people have said over the years. I AM the father figure of this clan...again, always have been and always will be. Fathers are the protectors of the family. THAT is my job. Thank you Wayne for giving me a little morale boost. I'm going to do what I can to not let you or WG down. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:28 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Vince, i told you so -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:31 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Told me what? He asked you a question, not started an argument. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:37 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() | lol im done with this and i will not be checking this thread again so continue if you want but i will not be here -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:39 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Sith is cool tbh, he just hasn't gotten to know you yet Rick. ![]()
Not really, it's just that I COMPLETELY misread your earlier thread. No idea how, lol. My opinions haven't changed, I was just completely misunderstanding the entire basis for the discussion. When I realized that, it made an impression, and whenever I think about something that much it usually turns into some sort of analogy. This one was definitely above average though, and I figured it might help some other people think things through as much as it helped me. I can tell you, that was definitely not me being pissed. ![]() On another note, I'm officially asking anyone willing with the appropriate forum access to delete all posts by Vince and Sith starting here as you see fit. I think that leaves everything that was constructive. You're both great friends, but this is getting overboard IMO. Forget Rick, you guys tipped your own canoes without any help at all. ![]() -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:48 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
LOL You're right Wayne, they tipped their own canoe but guess who will get the blame? ![]() -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:49 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Its actually not as personal as you think. As other people have said, you are actually a pretty decent guy once people get to know you. I just think you make a horrible leader because you arbitrarily ban people who you see as the "scum" of the clan. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 06:50 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: September 6, 2008 06:53 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ah yes Karl, that may have been true back in the day but in the WG of today, that's not really possible without a majority vote from Council...correct? So that pretty much just blew your entire argument out of the water, the water that I protect. ![]() And tell me Karl, who did I ban from WG that WASN'T scum? Sure, I've made some mistakes but I've done more good than harm with my ban stick and you know it. ![]() -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 08:09 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Tbh that kind of does ruin my argument...still, I do not like the huge amount of drama that you cause as a leader. Rick, yes, some people you banned really deserved it, but for me it is the principle of the thing, I do not believe that you should ban or punish people just because you dislike them or think the clan will be better off without them. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 08:47 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Why not? Every single person I've banned made the clan stronger and more of a community. As I said, I've made my mistakes and have made retribution to those I've wronged. I don't cause any more or any less drama in a leadership role. I don't do anything differently Karl. You should know. I'm the same way I am now. Vocal, to the point, uncaring about personal feelings, tell it like it is. Those have always been me whether I was a leader or whether I wasn't. You know what I find funny Karl. You pass all these judgements on me and my leadership abilities yet you've never stepped up to take any leadership role yourself. There's an old saying that goes something like this..."If you do nothing to help, don't criticize those who try." Maybe you should really think about that Karl. You've been here how long and what have you accomplished? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 09:04 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Hyperion Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1636 Member No.: 978 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I love how every topic about Rick turns into an arguement and a flame war, i mean i don't know if you people notice it, but they do. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() Dragon boots:29 Whips:2 | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 09:05 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | This is what you call a discussion, Sooth. There's no arguing and no flaming involved. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 09:20 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I've been trying to think of what to call this all afternoon. It's not really an argument, and it's not a flame war. Karl doesn't cut that low, one of the reasons I really respect him when he posts about anything. But there's definitely something going on here... It's almost like watching a chess match but with flamethrowers and exploding tripwire traps. -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 09:45 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: HavocAngel Group: Ex-Member Posts: 127 Member No.: 1218 Joined: July 17, 2008 Total Events Attended: 3 ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ![]() ![]() -------------------- RSN: D filedAngel. ![]() | ||||||
Posted: September 6, 2008 09:48 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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