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Posted: September 25, 2008 08:22 pm  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113    | i told you brandon i told you  -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011  http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 09:06 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | Well I won't really be around to say this, so I won't have much input in it. Its good that you're stepping up to take a more active role, but bare in mind to get the respect kenshln had, you need to earn it. I'm sure with the right frame of mind, you will in time. As others have said, the warring list may not be the best idea. It may have the effect of segregation - the keen warers sign up on the list and form a good warring unit. Some people may want to try warring, but are soon shunned out for not being on the list and may think 'bah, sod that', and go back to skilling. What is the warring list supposed to achieve? It can't be used as a substitute for our main list if people not on the list can go. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 09:13 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Brandon, I know where you're going with this. I see the idea and acknowledge your enthusiasm. I also told you on IRC that I'm behind you 100% and I sincerely mean that. With that said, why don't you and I get together sometime and go over the points you bring up on this topic and see if somehow, we can't get something going that will help wars but not hinder spirits? I'm sure that with your experiences and ideas along with my experiences we could figure something out that will benefit everyone. What do you say? -------------------- | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 10:47 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | Supported, I love you long time Sadcon even though you can't pk -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 10:48 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Hyperion Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1636 Member No.: 978 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141 | The mvp part sounds good. just so long we aren't going for "i got the most kills, i get it" i hope taht you do something like, who co-operated well, did what they were told, and so on. --------------------    Dragon boots:29 Whips:2 | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 12:14 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | Nise idea, look forward to seeing wg at its peak --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 02:39 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 | I personally do not think the list will cause segregation. You can join at any time and at any level so there is no exclusions. I don't know how many we'll have on the list but I'm sure we could always use some extra skillers. I doubt we'll pull more than our opponents with just our warring list. I DO NOT WISH TO RESURRECT THE SECTORS. The list is also part of my plan to build a stricter and more organized structure of warring. I think many people are missing this important point The way I see it, if you're on the warring list you've made a commitment to be at wars no matter what, you're in line. For example if we have a matched options war and a skiller decides to go, my member who was on the warring list would get cut when he's waiting in line. There will be some tweaks to the list and exceptions, I'm sure someone may want to give up their place for a skiller at times and I'm almost positive we could use the extra attendees for now as we will not have many on the list (at least that's what I think cause this is a big commitment.) The list is just so I can see what we generally will pull to wars, those who sign up are the committed. On another note I never will achieve the greatness Ken has, he's set the standard I'm just trying to follow it. I will go into more details on the MVP and attendance in the future. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 02:55 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | You're definitely on the right track Brandon. If you make those tweaks you should be able to perfect it, and I'm really happy with the enthusiasm you have put forth. Thats the kind of stuff we need to see. And please don't see my posts as arguments against, I'm just trying to tweak out the small problems that I see. I trust in your leadership to make the best choices based on input given here. Besides, I'm emeritus XD. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 03:55 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 |
Mike you're not just an emeritus. An emeritus is a highly admired rank and I do not see your posts as opposition at all =). I love the feedback and find it helpful, the members come input is very valuable and should come first. If we can use it to perfect our clan system everyone will be happy. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 08:10 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | I agree with it all apart from a seperate list, surely there would be a better way? I can't think of anything better, but I still don't really like it xD Epic post though, I'd love to see WG get respect for winning wars. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 09:51 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | Brandon, don't get me wrong. I agree that this idea is fantastic, and would really strengthen the clan in terms of warring, and just getting to know our capabilities. I know you mean well. It's evident because you've already said nobody will be turned away due to levels, rank, experience or whatnot. You've given people the ability to come and go as they please. You've given a lot to the members of this list. It's obvious you're not trying at all to turn anyone away. The thing is, people will feel as though they're being turned away even though they're not. It's not the nature of your idea, it's just something that happens no matter what the situation. Like Rick, if you ever want to bounce ideas off someone, drop me a PM. I'd LOVE to see this idea go through, but I'd HATE to see it fall apart because some people might feel like they're not being included. I'd also like to point out, this idea has one major difference than the sectors. We were forced to join a sector upon joining. Nobody is forcing us to join this list. It's totally optional. I mean, it would be pretty hard to say you're not being included when you've got the opportunity to join whenever you want. The problem would occur when someone not on the list wants to war. That should be your main focus right now Brandon. I think most people would agree that the fundamentals of this idea are sound. It's just the drama that would ensue when someone wants to fight, but can't because he/she isn't on the list. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 12:36 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | ohhhh I love the mvp that is awesomeness idea. If done right it would encourage better teamwork at wars. I'm a skiller myself and don't war as much. I hope you wont be like another staff member that has yelled at me in the past and this has discouraged me from attending now. Being put down on ts in front of the entire clan even as a joke or whatever makes people not want to leave skills to come and get abused. Please just take that as advice, past things don't really matter. I am behind you on this. I will try to make more of an effort to attend wars. Anything that comes up less than an hour, most likely I wont attend. It takes me a long time to prepare for wars. F2p alot less time. I have a tab in my bank for f2p. Good luck on getting it all together. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 01:33 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 |
/me points at self. I'm more of a skiller than a war person. I didn't join WG to war. Now what? -------------------- | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 03:15 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Aardvark Group: Banned Posts: 759 Member No.: 322 Joined: March 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 175 | Im ready for more wars  and I like everyones input and ideas  --------------------    | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 10:04 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 | The one thing I pretty strongly disagree with is the Warring List. I don't believe the clan should be split into two, and people have to choose between warring very regularly and not warring at all. It'd be a mistake to implement a warring list. The other points I support you on  ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 10:20 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | don't let tabs hybrid.....she can barely run around rs and use ts at the same time without lagging.....add in switching gear and shes screwed lul. But yea. Sounds like a good plan....if only I had the urge to play runescape.... --------------------  | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 10:58 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 |
its not splittin the clan up its a reference  -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: September 26, 2008 11:11 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Bam Group: Emeritus Posts: 2762 Member No.: 131 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 111 | never had bind runes on me, never will. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: September 27, 2008 03:23 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 |
The clan isn't split into two at all. I know the list has flaws but I've done my best to scrape up my ideas and with input from our members I know we will succeed. What I want is enforcement. I want a list that gives me a perspective of how strong our warring sector actually is. I don't expect a list of more than 20, I know how frightening commitment is. Those who choose on the list CHOOSE to war frequently, they are our war hungry. As for other members they are still welcome to come as I said I don't expect a list of more than 20 and I think we could use the extras who want to come so I highly doubt anyone would be excluded. P.S. Bam we might have some problems with you getting cut if you refuse to bind =\/ Also Rachel, I never want to scold or yell anyone. I'm not going to deny it, I'm going to be rough because a lot of our members just trample over the "nice" Brandon. I won't discourage members, but I will scold them if they disobey. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 27, 2008 03:35 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | brandon get on now -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: September 27, 2008 04:25 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
The list itself will be flawed anyway as I'm pretty sure the unpredictability of life means that nobody can give a real 100% to be at every EVERY war WG takes part in :\ Timezones would also be a factor that would not work for the list. :S I just don't see the list as being beneficial :\ -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||
Posted: September 27, 2008 07:41 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | Im always up for wars no matter what the circumstances are. --------------------  The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011        | ||||
Posted: September 27, 2008 09:09 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 | Mugger, those on the list don't have to be at EVERY war. They have to be at all the wars in which they are ONLINE, so if they are playing RS and are on the list they must come to the war. If they had something in real life to do they wouldn't be on RS. Timezones wouldn't come into play as the warring list does not consist of the ONLY people who will come to wars, like I said its a reference. Finally, I know the list flawed and we're working on it, I really don't see many other options. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
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