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WHAT!? TAKE ME WITH YOU, FFS.

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What a bunch of nonsense.
I'm saying, there's a balance between IRL and the clan.
I want the vast majority of your efforts to be spent on RL but MOST WG members are coming p with way too many excuses to not attend events.
Some are legit and some are bullshit.

How dare you be so accusatory and think for one moment that I am forcing you to base your life around this game. I am so the OPPOSITE it offends me that you make that judgment. For so long I have let people get away with not attending events and not providing reasons, or being generally laid back about attendance. And now that I'm enforcing the most BASIC activity requirement you are going apeshit.

2 out of 7 events is hardly anything. In other clans you can get kicked for not attending 2-3 wars in a row. In other clans, sign ups are mandatory and you are expelled if you don't sign up to a 3 day prep. You have it so easy and you are bitching about this requirement which in comparison is almost nothing.

If you want to go out, fine. Good for you, it just means your life is too busy for WG. We are not a clan where you can just take your pick. We require commitment too, like any other clan. Now quit complaining about how evil you think I am and realise that my requirements are generous. And stop expecting to have the cake and eat it. How dare you expect to keep a high profile in this clan and not contribute to our major events.

That's cool, but if that lifestyle means you can't be at enough events, then your life is too busy for WG and it's your fault, not mine.

Your claim that I'm kicking people for not building their lives around WG was very rude indeed. We are not a cemetery. You don't come and crash here when you have nothing else to live for IRL. Every other clan has way more demands and you have it easy here. Only in WG can you miss war after war and get away with it. So I have little to no mercy for you if you can't make 2 events out of the 7.
 
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Kinda sounds like you're blaming us for wanting to be a part of the clan, and then because we can't obligate as much as others, we're pretty much are worthless to you.






Glenn, do you work? Sorry to single you out... but... Work is a valid excuse. I've given Elias my schedule, It's solid, and I'm sorry I cannot be there.

I plan to attend day 3, that is, of course assuming I'm still wanted in the clan for my lack of activity.
 
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Kingdom of Edgeville

Not worthless, but incompatible.
If you can attend Day 3, that's at least enough for emeritus.
 
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What a bunch of nonsense.
I'm saying, there's a balance between IRL and the clan.
I want the vast majority of your efforts to be spent on RL but MOST WG members are coming p with way too many excuses to not attend events.
Some are legit and some are bullshit.

How dare you be so accusatory and think for one moment that I am forcing you to base your life around this game. I am so the OPPOSITE it offends me that you make that judgment. For so long I have let people get away with not attending events and not providing reasons, or being generally laid back about attendance. And now that I'm enforcing the most BASIC activity requirement you are going apeshit.

2 out of 7 events is hardly anything. In other clans you can get kicked for not attending 2-3 wars in a row. In other clans, sign ups are mandatory and you are expelled if you don't sign up to a 3 day prep. You have it so easy and you are bitching about this requirement which in comparison is almost nothing.

If you want to go out, fine. Good for you, it just means your life is too busy for WG. We are not a clan where you can just take your pick. We require commitment too, like any other clan. Now quit complaining about how evil you think I am and realise that my requirements are generous. And stop expecting to have the cake and eat it. How dare you expect to keep a high profile in this clan and not contribute to our major events.

That's cool, but if that lifestyle means you can't be at enough events, then your life is too busy for WG and it's your fault, not mine.

Your claim that I'm kicking people for not building their lives around WG was very rude indeed. We are not a cemetery. You don't come and crash here when you have nothing else to live for IRL. Every other clan has way more demands and you have it easy here. Only in WG can you miss war after war and get away with it. So I have little to no mercy for you if you can't make 2 events out of the 7.

I apologize for saying you wanted us to build our lives around the clan, what I was referring to was this:

I personally can make a good number of the events, because they're at good times for me. Some are during school, and some are at the same time I'm going to be at a party. I won't be leaving a friend's birthday party to play this game, I'm sorry.

About balance between the clan and the game, exactly what are you talking about here? An equal balance? A 60/40, 70/30, 80/20 balance, or share I guess it would be. I can tell you right now I would not give this game as much importance as my life. If I've got nothing more important to do, then sure count me in. There are times where I SHOULD be studying but I hop on for an event anyway.

Might I suggest conjuring a list that clearly explains what are legit and what are bullshit excuses? I predict that might help things, maybe.

Would I be right to assume that your comments aren't directed at me Elias? I'm unsure.

In any case, I've made the suggestion to make sign-ups mandatory. I use the logic that it takes a measly 2-3 minutes to say "Yes", "No" and give a reason. So I'm with you on that.

I'm not trying to start anything with you Elias, and I'm sorry if it has, because I really do respect you and what you do - I've said this many times before.

Maybe it's just the current circumstances. We're in a slump, you're working your ass off and not getting much in return. I know posting this isn't exactly the best remedy but I should at least voice my concern, not really for me personally because I can meet the requirements but for others, and just my general feel about things.

I just want to point out some things:

You say that you're not asking us to build our lives/weekend(s) around the clan, but then say that if I(we) wish to go out our lives are to busy for WG? Sounds like in order to be in the clan we need to have a specific lifestyle. I'm sure this is just for this time (the Anniversary), but still, the idea that we should give up our RL events for a game is mind boggling. I also know that I can't speak from experience so you've got me there and again, I'm just posting my opinion.

You say you're not asking us to build our lives around the clan, but then we can't just take our pick? Again, sounds a little like you want us to build our lives around the clan. I'll just say again, that it's probably because this is an important time for you, the clan and all of us, so I understand that.

I never said you were evil. I'm sure it came across that way, but I didn't mean it. I make the events I'm at home to make. Most of the events I'm not home for, or are so early in the morning that I can't make them because I don't get enough sleep as it is. So, I'm not expecting to be given this cake of which you speak.

You've got to watch what you're saying (not an insult or a sarcastic remark) because a lot of it is very contradictory.

If my lifestyle is a certain way, I'm not active enough for WG? So exactly what should I do? Change? But you're not asking me to. So it's implied?

Look, I don't want our friendship (or whatever is left of it now) to end like this because that would be terrible. You don't need one more person angry at you and I don't want you angry at me.

Honestly, I agree with a majority of what you're saying. It's just that one line that set me off. Something about it just isn't right.
 
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