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Posted: December 24, 2008 10:02 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147    | Though I am delighted to see this change to emeritus it does dissapoint me as well to see once again that you feel it is nessacary to penalise those who are unable to be as active as they previously have been.
This is exactly what I have always interpreted Emeritus to serve, basically as a reward to those who have put the hard yards in to help out WG in the past, but do not have the time to do the same now. To me, if you can't accept that Emeritus is a rank that is only used by those who still enjoy the company of WG members but cannot commit much time to the game, then the rank itself is entirely pointless. All you will achieve is a gradual push away of those members who often have spent a significant amount of time helping the clan (a recent example being Rai of Light) while really see'ing no significant gain in activity. I just don't get where the assumption that inactivity is 'optional' comes from, goddam.... if I could spend time on RS I would.... --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||
Posted: December 24, 2008 10:06 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st Group: Founder Posts: 770 Member No.: 2 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 49 | I am going to have to agree with the majority here, and say that Emeritus *should* be able to access #wg. How do you expect Emeritus to come to events, or even keep things active? I know that without the active IRC channel, there wouldn't be much reason to stay around here, aside from perhaps checking the forums one a day or week. Eugene, I think that this really isn't going to change much, and after a few wars, you are going to find everyone is regular Emeritus, and those members are going to be even *more* inactive. -RobbieThe1st -------------------- Old Avatar - Paypal donation link  I am left handed, and proud of it! Retired from RuneScape. Old forum posts: 2275(s4+s10+wg.com)+1759(z6 old account)+474(z6 new account) Total: 4508 Join date: 4/16/05 | Get Firefox 3.5 now: http://www.getfirefox.com | RobbieSwich for Firefox | ||||
Posted: December 24, 2008 10:16 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 |
You are taking the rank for granted. Most clans nowadays don't offer a retirement rank for long standing members. If you finish with RS you are finished with clans. The emeritus rank is meant to be a half way point between full member and ex-member. Longstanding members of WG, when their lifes got too busy for full commitment, could take on the Emeritus rank to reduce their workload, but it was never designed to relieve them of commitment to WG. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: December 24, 2008 10:32 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jesseh Group: Guest Posts: 2670 Member No.: 297 Joined: March 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 222 | Good idea, i agree with all the points and i hope it works aswell as we need it too. --------------------   17/6/08--> 12/9/08--> 29/11/08--> 5/1/09--> 2/3/09(Left)--> 19/7/09(Rejoin)--> 2/8/09
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Posted: December 24, 2008 11:09 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | I agree with the majority, though I'm with Karl here :/ If they don't have the time to war do you honestly think they'll have the time to go to normal events? :S Give them IA and IRC without war/events/adult forums please, people like Mike and Sam are extremely busy IRL, but they still liven up the IRC, no need to take their access away because they have no time to 'Scape l: --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian.  | ||||
Posted: December 24, 2008 11:44 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Hobbo690 Group: Clan Friend Posts: 147 Member No.: 1497 Joined: November 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 9 | good idea tbh, however the emeritus should have access to #wg in my opinion --------------------  | ||||
Posted: December 25, 2008 07:26 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: ``Jordan Group: Ex-Member Posts: 253 Member No.: 56 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Demote me to Emeritus please. I really don't have the time to play RuneScape, but I still have a spot for WG in my heart and have become attached to this clan. I want to someway stay connected and offer my help if anyone needs it. ~Jordan --------------------   ~~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~``Jordan on IRC`~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~~ ~~~~~~~~~First joined WG October 31st, 2005~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ex-Raid Leader~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ||||
Posted: December 25, 2008 07:47 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | I think the honoured emeritus / emeritus is a good idea to solve the problem. Do honoured emeritus have more privelidges than emeritus? It sounds like honoured emertius are probably more active so could do with slightly more privelidges, but still between that and emeritus. Depending on activity requirements, I will probably ask to be demoted to emeritus after the 10th Jan, because I most likely cannot attend an event until easter, 1/4 of the year. The system we have at the moment seems to work well, even though it is a touch more complex. (But there again, complexity when applied correctly shows a diverse and stable system which has developed through experience). -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||||
Posted: December 25, 2008 09:20 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mangomaniac2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 536 Member No.: 70 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 | Great posts by Vald and Karl.
I completely agree. Most emeritus would love to spend some time on RS and with WG, but just can't find the time. I'm just lucky enough that I still have some time to play RS on weekends, but its unfair to those would don't have the same luxury as I do.
Here's the list of emeritus from the s4 boards:   Elias, since you're one of the few who know the actual answer, how many of those emerituses actually attended events? Doubt its more than 1 or two, but I may be wrong :$ --------------------  | ||||
Posted: December 25, 2008 09:38 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Useph Group: Guest Posts: 267 Member No.: 125 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 29 | Why shouldn't Emeritus get access to Important Announcements? Maybe they're not active in Runescape anymore but why do they have to be in the dark when it comes to clan matters? And why can't they go into the IRC channel? They'd probably rarely come around anyway, but during the few times they would want to, they can't because they aren't active enough for a clan that they were loyal to for many years. It's not about relying on past achievements, it's about common decency. I'm sure any other Runescape clan would let an old member of theirs into their IRC channel, ESPECIALLY if they've quit and have seldom opportunities to visit. Eventually everyone in the clan will get too busy for Runescape (unless there's people here who plan to play for the rest of their lives) and then there will be a few people sitting in an empty forum, and an even more empty IRC chatroom. Won't that be nice. -------------------- Goals 78/99  | 99/99  | 92/99  | 94/99  | 82/99  | 99/99  | 77/99  mIRC Guru  WG's #1 Pyromaniac | ||||
Posted: December 25, 2008 11:25 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | I thought emeritus could use the chatroom, it was just an error which prevented them? -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow" | ||||
Posted: December 26, 2008 01:05 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Emeritus Posts: 318 Member No.: 21 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 1 | Ah well, IA doesn't even apply rarely to Emeritus unless it's buying a T-shirt or anything, guess I don't need it. But don't expect any activity coming from us when you post something in that forum. Which is basically every topic council+ makes. Change me to Emeritus please, I can't go to wars when I work every weekend, on top of college. --------------------  *Proud* Former leader of the Wilderness Guardians  ^Not Reticked's idea, mine tbh (FOR REAL NO JOKE OMG)^ | ||||
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