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 Whats in your CTRL + V, - Fun/Interesting Topic
Posted: July 12, 2008 10:17 amTop
   
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Posted: July 13, 2008 04:18 pmTop
   
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July 13, 2008 03:26 pm
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Posted: July 13, 2008 04:29 pmTop
   
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Wildflame est un homme de deux pouces. Ses niveaux totaux doivent toujours être au-dessous de mon total. En arrière sur la matière, c'est le forum d'art. Félicitations à vous qui comprennent ceci. Vous devez garder le secret
 
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Posted: July 13, 2008 04:51 pmTop
   


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Posted: July 20, 2008 05:03 pmTop
   
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w, Soulfire list4, Aussie Tanks, Team k0, Team Sexy, The Wiggles, Runescape superheroes, Official E Thugs, Immortal Supremacy, CL Premier League, List Of Legends, Ballerinas for lyfe, Mexican Unit, Anti Samp, Team Worm, Team Samp, Bellas
 
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Posted: July 21, 2008 06:36 amTop
   
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Posted: July 21, 2008 09:52 amTop
   


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WG's forums have a similar file size limit. To check the size of your avatar or sig, right click on it and select properties. This will show you both the pixel width/height and the actual file size. I make sure to keep any sig I make within our limits, so they will be good for TDM forums as well.

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Was posting on TDM forums! And I had to dc.... So I copied just in case I needed to put it in again.
 
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Posted: July 21, 2008 11:21 amTop
   
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!grats 92 str
 
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Halo 3 - General Grade 3 ~ CoD4 - 10th Prestige 55 ~ MW2 - 9th Prestige 50
Joined WG 8th August 2006 - Im old School son

Posted: July 21, 2008 11:38 amTop
   
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Rsname - Email Address
 
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Perm banned.

Posted: July 21, 2008 12:48 pmTop
   
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Dilz621 - [email protected]

Was updating Dilz's MSN address onto the WG MSN List biggrin.gif
 
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Posted: July 21, 2008 01:59 pmTop
   
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http://www.caleague.com/showbracket.php?bracketid=1741

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Posted: July 21, 2008 04:12 pmTop
   
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(Mon 17:09:57) <Banana> [User] *** Retrieving info for Dalejamesw
(Mon 17:09:58) <Banana> [User] Registered : 25/01/2008 - 15:08:43
(Mon 17:09:58) <Banana> [User] Last login on : *!*wg_daleja@*.range??-???.btcentralplus.com
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^ lmao tongue.gif Checked Dale's user account earlier on Banana (Retri's bot) and then copied it to paste into staff room o.O

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Posted: July 21, 2008 05:26 pmTop
   
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[~10.22~] <@Dalejamesw> I <3 You
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Posted: July 21, 2008 09:39 pmTop
   
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Alea Jacta Est
 
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Posted: July 21, 2008 09:44 pmTop
   
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Posted: July 21, 2008 10:08 pmTop
   
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At the end of each section ask … to double-check any work which was done.
 
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Posted: July 21, 2008 10:11 pmTop
   
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Interesting points kristy. It makes sense that you should know about the management of people, as you're more experienced than any of us.

The question is whether something from the adult management world can be applied to a clan demographically constructed predominantly of youths and young people. There are many contrasts between a business and a gaming clan, for example the assinging of staff, and the absense of any means of pay, among many others.

It is a grey area whether the hall of shame to young people has the same effect to say, stocks to the larger audience. Young people are more dynamic, and more likely to bounce back from bad situations. (Usually older ones are too mature to get banned in the first place)

Starting from a different angle, the hall of shame is important from a objective point of view. People need to know what's happened to someone. Naturally, people in the clan are curious as to what's going on with general matters. Leaving them in the dark may just lead to them asking, usually in public, which reverses the objective of removing the hall of shame. Especially when there is a friend of the person banned, they deserve the right to know what's happened to them and they will ask.

The process of people asking, for example, in the IRC 'is X banned? why? what happened?'. This in itself will instill more doubt and distrust than the hall of shame, because people are likely to be on edge about it and feel they could recieve the silent bullet next. Meanwhile new members will face all this conversation of people being banned and as you say, become slightly concerned.

You could argue that people will discuss the hall of shame anyway, but I feel that when there's more unknowns, there'll be more public conversation, and it will be more 'edgy', so the speak.

One way around it is having a system where people officialy approach a staff member and ask 'is X banned?', thereby limiting it to only those who want to know. This may be more hassle for the staff, but do you feel this is better?

It is true that the hall of shame serves as a mild form of public humiliation. But sometimes it is needed. If someone has betrayed someone's trust (say hacking + stealing info, because scamming is no longer applicable), people have a right to know that he is a risk.

If this person is a troublemaker, then they could start twisting the minds of WG to make them think s/he was banned with no proof, and working them against WG. Without no official place for people to look at the evidence, they'll start being lead into a revolt. Sure, its rare, but it could happen.

Then there's the occasions where it is well-deserved for them to be banned. Say they were openly supporting the 9/11 terrorism, or showing extreme racism or sexism. Hall of shame is a way to equalise it, because there is potential for very bad crimes, even just through text.

In the real world, we see sex offenders and terrorists all the time on the TV news. The malicious ones don't care at all, and it makes people safer knowing who is a risk. You could argue that media is evil and wrong, but it is a large power in the world.



Sorry it turned into a long post. It was great to hear your idea kristy, but if you could I'd just like you to discuss the points I raised. Mostly;

i) People will discuss it in public anyway if they are curious, which serves the same purpose as hall of shame
ii) Sometimes the stocks approach is needed, to warn people. In addition, it could serve as interesting to some, and makes them think the leadership is on top of removing the bad people.

(Maybe some bannable offences are worth going in hall of shame, but some are not? That's another thing to think about).


(I don't completely disagree with your idea, but just throwing up something from the other side of the discussion, because i'm just curious =p)


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Posted: July 21, 2008 11:02 pmTop
   


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Posted: July 21, 2008 11:03 pmTop
   
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Flash of steel in the mid-day sun
The battle has begun
Blood spills all around us but still we carry on

No mercy we will show to them
The white flag shall be raised
We'll fight for our freedom
Ride towards this evil place



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dragonforce-where dragons rule
 
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Posted: July 21, 2008 11:41 pmTop
   
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Posted: July 23, 2008 08:21 amTop
   
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Lol, not gonna post it, but it was a link to download porn.
 
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Posted: July 23, 2008 09:26 amTop
   
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Posted: July 24, 2008 11:41 amTop
   


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No will you be on.
 
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Posted: July 24, 2008 11:56 amTop
   
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/msg ^Banana &invite Zeth007 EDIT: this was my freaking password and I was about to post it!!!@@@
 
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Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left.

Posted: July 24, 2008 05:45 pmTop
   
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^^^^

Apparently... i have a "space" as my CNTRL V...
 
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