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 Council Election Nominations
Posted: October 12, 2008 02:46 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ October 12, 2008 09:15 am)
Muggers, Randy, Vince and Jenny why not the secondary warlord or did I miss read that.  It seems you fit that more but not sure.

Because this application is only for General Council.

Not to mention I'm not a Raid Leader. Just because I'm high leveled doesn't mean I'm Warlord material. Nice stereotype.

Doubt that was necessary.

You're right. But it is true. neko2.gif I don't mind warring, but I'm not a diehard fan just because I'm level 125. I surely wouldn't be able to lead. >_<

Cory and Anat are higher lvls too. So my comment was not based on combat alone.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 04:46 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (His Lordship @ October 11, 2008 10:15 am)
Yes, applications, not nominations.
I feel, in my experience, it is best to make elite the cut-off point.
At higher guardian, you are still learning about WG.
In fact everyone in the council is still learning about WG, but you only get to a stage where you know the clan through and through at around the Elite Guardian rank.

But what about guys like me who've been here and done that in the past? I hardly think that someone in the Elite rank now has more experience and knowledge of WG than someone in MY position. Granted, this would only apply if I, or someone like me, were to apply.

Yes, to be honest, I've thought about it.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 05:13 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ October 12, 2008 02:15 pm)
Muggers, Randy, Vince and Jenny why not the secondary warlord or did I miss read that. It seems you fit that more but not sure.

I would have gone for Warlord had it been available, but it's not tongue.gif
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 05:20 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Rick Hamm @ October 12, 2008 04:46 pm)
QUOTE (His Lordship @ October 11, 2008 10:15 am)
Yes, applications, not nominations.
I feel, in my experience, it is best to make elite the cut-off point.
At higher guardian, you are still learning about WG.
In fact everyone in the council is still learning about WG, but you only get to a stage where you know the clan through and through at around the Elite Guardian rank.

But what about guys like me who've been here and done that in the past? I hardly think that someone in the Elite rank now has more experience and knowledge of WG than someone in MY position. Granted, this would only apply if I, or someone like me, were to apply.

Yes, to be honest, I've thought about it.

That would cause controversy.
A seasoned veteran in the clan for a couple of months bypassing all the ranks straight to the top... would be a major drama.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 05:40 pmTop
   


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But someone who is, and has been, the Emeritus rank for a long time should hold precedence over someone who is an actual member?

Sorry Jen, using you as an example.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 05:45 pmTop
   
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Posted: October 12, 2008 06:45 pmTop
   
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hm.....I think my vote will be with Ranma or Jenny atm......
GL to everyone though.

EDIT-Um just to clarify but......I thought the terms of you coming back Rick was that you couldn't get council/run....
idk maybe im wrong but idk..i heard that somewhere.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 08:34 pmTop
   


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Kiwi, stick to what you know...Emeritus. It don't concern you one bit whether there were or weren't "conditions" to my returning.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 09:28 pmTop
   
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Good luck to those who apply. Might apply, might not. I'll see who the competition is first.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 09:59 pmTop
   
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Im not 'excluding' anyone, but if people have been there and they've left, why not let someone else try out the position?

Then you are excluding someone, this isn't about letting people try for a spot its about picking someone who will better the clan.

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Jenny, im not going to argue with you, i didnt agree with when stokenut came back and got council for the second time and i wouldnt agree with you getting it either.

Then I guess that would be your vote. Let her do her thing and lets not cry about it.

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You know as well as any that the Council applications are a popularity contest, these people will vote for you because you are who you are, not because of anything that you will or may do.

Popularity contest or not, overall the council have complete control over anything, if someone got voted for the spot, and the council didn't think the person who got voted could fulfill what was needed, im sure it would be vetoed.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 10:07 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (His Lordship @ October 12, 2008 12:20 pm)
QUOTE (Rick Hamm @ October 12, 2008 04:46 pm)
QUOTE (His Lordship @ October 11, 2008 10:15 am)
Yes, applications, not nominations.
I feel, in my experience, it is best to make elite the cut-off point.
At higher guardian, you are still learning about WG.
In fact everyone in the council is still learning about WG, but you only get to a stage where you know the clan through and through at around the Elite Guardian rank.

But what about guys like me who've been here and done that in the past? I hardly think that someone in the Elite rank now has more experience and knowledge of WG than someone in MY position. Granted, this would only apply if I, or someone like me, were to apply.

Yes, to be honest, I've thought about it.

That would cause controversy.
A seasoned veteran in the clan for a couple of months bypassing all the ranks straight to the top... would be a major drama.

I seem to remember Thomas(Tmal) doing just that, and by your own doing Eugene.


EDIT: Not trying to be rude, just pointing out that it has happened before.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 10:08 pmTop
   
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Ah you guys always post stuff when I am away biggrin.gif
I'll post mine tomorrow, I wrote it last week since I knew they were coming biggrin.gif
So yeah i just need to touch it up wub.gif
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 11:21 pmTop
   
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OLAWD. If Vince wins I'll get power abused so hard poop will just kinda fall out of my butt rather than having to squeeze it out.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 11:25 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Arsenalfan32 @ October 12, 2008 07:21 pm)
OLAWD. If Vince wins I'll get power abused so hard poop will just kinda fall out of my butt rather than having to squeeze it out.

I would never. neko2.gif
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 11:48 pmTop
   
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sounds like some hard shit.

BEST OF LUCK!

P.S. anyone who makes council, call me. ohmy.gif wink.gif
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 12:05 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Rick Hamm @ October 12, 2008 08:34 pm)
Kiwi, stick to what you know...Emeritus. It don't concern you one bit whether there were or weren't "conditions" to my returning.

Don't be a hypocrite Rick. Your a guardian. And actually seeing as this concerns the whole of WG. It concerns me as well as I am part of WG just as you are.

I may not be as "Active" as some but I sure as hell do my part. Don't bring this down to rank.
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 12:28 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Arsenalfan32 @ October 12, 2008 03:21 pm)
OLAWD. If Vince wins I'll get power abused so hard poop will just kinda fall out of my butt rather than having to squeeze it out.

It already just falls out your butt hash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.pnghash.png
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 01:12 amTop
   


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QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ October 12, 2008 07:05 pm)
QUOTE (Rick Hamm @ October 12, 2008 08:34 pm)
Kiwi, stick to what you know...Emeritus.   It don't concern you one bit whether there were or weren't "conditions" to my returning.

Don't be a hypocrite Rick. Your a guardian. And actually seeing as this concerns the whole of WG. It concerns me as well as I am part of WG just as you are.

I may not be as "Active" as some but I sure as hell do my part. Don't bring this down to rank.

A hypocrite?? Exactly how did what I say to you seem hypocritical? lol Learn word usage before trying to sound intelligent, please. Okay so since you didn't take it the nice way Kiwi...how about "It's none of your fucking business"? Is that better? Just worry about Emeritus and the election and not something as trivial as what MAY HAVE BEEN requests/requirements of my return. It has no bearing in this conversation whatsoever. For fucks sake already!!!!
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 05:34 amTop
   
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I support Jenny. Emeritus rank doesn't suit her for her level of activity. She's highly active, and highly motivated. She's been in the position before, and knows exactly what it entails.
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 05:35 amTop
   
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Guys, no offense but this isn't the place for another of these childish squabbles. This is a place people can campaign to proove they're the best choice for council.

If you guys really do feel the need to argue over this, take it to some form of PM, though I'd personally suggest simply dropping it.

Any more posts contributing to this argument will simply be edited out.

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Edit: (This is directed at Kiwi and Rick)
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 05:45 amTop
   
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QUOTE (His Lordship @ October 11, 2008 10:15 am)
Yes, applications, not nominations.
I feel, in my experience, it is best to make elite the cut-off point.
At higher guardian, you are still learning about WG.
In fact everyone in the council is still learning about WG, but you only get to a stage where you know the clan through and through at around the Elite Guardian rank.


i said this the other day but i think its abit out of wack. it says elite guardian or higher

and 4 months at least.

how many people have been elite after 4 months? i think stoke was the only person given up for that and that didnt end out well. maybe make it higher rank + 6 months experience in the clan, because you still know the clan well, but you dont have to wait till council recognize you for it.
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 06:29 amTop
   
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Application for Council

1. Have you read and understood the warning?

With all my heart yes.

2. What makes you think you can last a long term in the council?

I have experience and I know all about the rank.
I have witnessed the jobs of all of the council members and I have seen the difficulties that they face day by day and I think that I could be a great support to the existing council and staff members, as well as the current and future members of WG.
I can keep my cool and I have a lot of great ideas and as a person I am naturally very imaginative and I think that that quality is good in a council member.

3. Is there anything coming up in the next 6 months that could make you highly inactive?

Not at all (except from the first week of december Sunday-->Saturday)

4. Why are you applying for council?

I have experience leading other clans - I rarely speak of this now but I made a clan with the help of some friends around 3 years ago and that prospered, had its downsides, prospered again, worked up to 70 members, good clan, extremely active, fun events, ownage members. I remember the stress and the hard work I had to put in to get that clan going and I would never trade in that experience for anything, since I enjoyed it so much.

I am a "people-person", sure I have arguments occassionally, we all do. But I listen to the members and act upon their advice, suggestions. If someone pms me a suggestion I will take it into consideration and act upon it

5. What does WG need most and what will you do as a council member?

WG needs people who can pull the clan through bad times and who have the ability to support the clan in everything that it does.
I feel that I am a person who will be able to do this.

- Find a way to increase the level of training of Pro Silentium- so we can all train better and gain more levels and destroy our future war targets
- Host steel/iron wars- with allies and interclan as well- people dress up in steel and then fight each other basically, but they often die quickly owing to full steel.
- Encourage more members to host events as well as Event Leaders as well as continously work with the members to create fun , never hosted before events.

6. What puts you above other people applying for council?

I have been a skills leader since September 2007 after joining in July 2007. I have experience in leading clans before, some of you may remember my application, where I explained all about the clan Betrayed Phoenix which I founded, built and led for a year and a half.

I am also very active. Attending events is hard for me during the week, however I am always on the forums, I generally have 1-2 hours every day to do WG related stuff.
Whether that be forum work, rs events etc.

I am responsible. I have done many jobs for the past council over the years and for lordy, most recently being compiling the RS event pictures from May + June events and then sending them to Gene to reduce his workload.

I enjoy everything I do in WG, everything down to the menial tasks such as updating attendance biggrin.gif

7. What is your greatest weakness in terms of being a leader?

I do lose my temper sometimes. As humans we all do. But I am getting a lot better at not expressing my anger to people so that they get upset. If something does upset me I generally leave the IRC and go to confide in some old friend who will listen to me.

8. Is there anything else you would like to say?

This is the third time I have applied for council, the last two times I narrowly lost the elections and I think perhaps that was a good thing that I didn't get council the last time.
I was less experienced than I am now and I think now I am ready to devote a lot more time to WG.
I have the time to work for my rank if I am elected and I assure you I will not let you down.

9. Do you agree to provide the council with two weeks notice if you wish to resign?

Of course I do. Yes.

Good luck to whoever else decides to stand wub.gif

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Posted: October 13, 2008 06:38 amTop
   
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Im not 'excluding' anyone, but if people have been there and they've left, why not let someone else try out the position?

Then you are excluding someone, this isn't about letting people try for a spot its about picking someone who will better the clan.

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Jenny, im not going to argue with you, i didnt agree with when stokenut came back and got council for the second time and i wouldnt agree with you getting it either.

Then I guess that would be your vote. Let her do her thing and lets not cry about it.

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You know as well as any that the Council applications are a popularity contest, these people will vote for you because you are who you are, not because of anything that you will or may do.

Popularity contest or not, overall the council have complete control over anything, if someone got voted for the spot, and the council didn't think the person who got voted could fulfill what was needed, im sure it would be vetoed.

Truely wrapped around the little finger.

Now Rob, this will be my last post on the subject, you know absolutely nothing about the Leadership or WG. Come to think of it, you werent even close to thinking about WG when Jenny was council.

If you want to quarrell more on politics, look me on the irc name "Cam", but ill have you know concerning WG, its history and its people is a fight you cannot win, ive been here since August '06 and you joined what? Two? Three months ago? if that.

Quote this if you want and throw in the last word, but i'd rather you find me on the irc :]
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 07:29 amTop
   
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I know nothing about leadership, when I was a leader long before 2006?

Either way it wouldn't matter how much I did know about the current leadership of the clan.

The fact is I can give my opinion weither you like it or you dont.

during the time Dorcha was a council member it seems to have been running a lot smoother then it is now?

Im not saying this is entirely due to her, im saying she was in a council position when WG was at the top of its game, hence the experience that no other council applicant here can give without being a previous council.

And when did I claim to know more about WG's history then yourself?
Even if I were to know more about WG's history then you, it wouldn't change what WG needs to improve on today.

As for me quoting you if I want the last word? Thats pretty hypocritical since your the one quoting me saying your having the last word.


If you want to quarrell more on politics, look me on the irc name "Robertwb69"
 
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Posted: October 13, 2008 03:33 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Robertwb69 @ October 13, 2008 07:29 am)
If you want to quarrell more on politics, look me on the irc name "Robertwb69"

Get on irc then douche
 
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