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Posted: March 6, 2009 03:41 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Olivier1o1 Group: Guest Posts: 208 Member No.: 1744 Joined: February 27, 2009 Total Events Attended: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'ma math geek, plain and simple, and I supplement my income teaching. I'm willing to anwser any questions you have about math, I can do up to 1-2 years of college level math, and you can post literally any math (or physics) question here, because if I'm stumped, I'll look it up ![]() -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: March 6, 2009 08:31 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: davza108 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 128 Member No.: 525 Joined: April 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Explain to me domain and range. -------------------- Avidgamers vet. | ||||||||
Posted: March 6, 2009 10:21 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hai I maffs ![]() -------------------- ![]() "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~ ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 12:38 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mangomaniac2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 536 Member No.: 70 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Do you seriously want help? Domain is all the possible x-values, and range is all the possible y-values. There we go ![]() -------------------- ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 12:55 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | A little off topic, but how do you like teaching? I'm thinking of maybe doing some tutoring on campus as a part-time job and was curious. ![]() -------------------- ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 12:58 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Ty Group: Ex-Member Posts: 369 Member No.: 93 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 ![]() ![]() ![]() | What is the integral of x^x? -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 09:07 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Unless I'm just thinking in terms of basic integration, the integral of x^x should be something like this: 1/x+1(x^x+1) Because when you derive it, you'd use the power rule and bring the x+1 over and make it the co-efficient, so it'd multiply by the 1/x+1, but would also cancel out = 1, meaning no visible co-efficient. At the same time, because you're deriving and using the power rule, you'd subtract 1 from the original power (x+1) which would result in just x. Your end result would be x^x. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 10:18 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Matt|Georgio9 Group: Emeritus Posts: 706 Member No.: 94 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Not necessarily. If you're in the complex domain, the domain of a function will be some magnitude and some angle range that make up the output of a function, the range. |x +iy| = 1, angle pi/4 |x - iy| = 1, angle 7pi/4 -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 10:02 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Clan Friend Posts: 31 Member No.: 1716 Joined: February 13, 2009 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
um...no. integral(x^x) isn't easily expressed as a function. If you are curious as to why http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Integral.html I'm not going to go through thoroughly why the above explanation is wrong, just notice that you can't "anti" chain rule like that, because our 1/x would also have its own derivative, namely -1/x^2 if you need a definite integration of x^x over some integral, some values can be achieved -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: March 7, 2009 11:10 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mtoise Group: Ex-Member Posts: 715 Member No.: 1691 Joined: February 5, 2009 Total Events Attended: 60 ![]() ![]() ![]() | You are all wrong The integral of X^X is HAHAHAHWTFIRLBBQ RUNESCAPE! -------------------- "Do not believe everything that is written on the internet; for it may just be a bag of lies" - George Washington 1873 - On the long winding road to 99 slayer. 98 to 99 Slay without killing a thing. 22/28 effigy's PM me if you can assist Construction Effigy's | ||||||||
Posted: March 8, 2009 02:18 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I thought Runescape was the answer to all problems. -------------------- ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 8, 2009 06:17 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Yeah, wasn't sure about my thinking. Just starting basic calculus, so was giving it a shot, haha. EDIT: Wait, I wasn't doing any chain-rule, I don't think. I used the parenthesis not to signify multiplication, but to just show it's a different value. My reasoning is probably still flawed, but I was just using the idea of: Integral of X^2 = 1/3*X^3. You bring the 3 from the X^3 over because of the power rule, which would cause it to cancel out with the 1/3. You would then subtract 1 from the 3, making it 2. Your end result would be X^2. What I did was simply replace the 3 with X+1. I'm probably still missing something, but yeah. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 8, 2009 07:14 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Ty Group: Ex-Member Posts: 369 Member No.: 93 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 ![]() ![]() ![]() | yeah I was just messing with you it can't be integrated ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 8, 2009 04:37 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Could you integrate it using logarithms somehow? (Haven't gotten to integrals yet). -------------------- ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 8, 2009 08:09 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Matt|Georgio9 Group: Emeritus Posts: 706 Member No.: 94 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well this is horrible. I tried to integrate x^x with my crazy math software Maple 11, and it failed. It just left it in the original form. It couldn't come up with a general integral to model it with. I'll give MATLAB a try in a bit. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 8, 2009 09:11 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Speaking of which, how the heck would you take the derivative of a logarithm. Serious question. // edit // Nvm, I guess you'd just take the derivative before putting it in logarithmic form. -------------------- ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 9, 2009 04:29 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Clan Friend Posts: 31 Member No.: 1716 Joined: February 13, 2009 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
alternatively, d(ln f(x))/dx = f'(x)/f(x) where f is a function of x -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: March 9, 2009 07:23 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Olivier1o1 Group: Guest Posts: 208 Member No.: 1744 Joined: February 27, 2009 Total Events Attended: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ok, I can do calc 1, calc 2, and a few more levels in, I self-taught myself some of it. Sorry, I didn't check this for a day or two, was really busy. In reverse, d lnx / dx = 1/x What you do is raise both sides to e^x then the form of a^u = a^u lna Du/Dx x^x is a nightmare. I did it once. GTG catch my bus, finish up later -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: March 10, 2009 01:35 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Plano|Adam Group: Emeritus Posts: 1449 Member No.: 228 Joined: February 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 107 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
i think i just pooped in my pants, and i realllly do not wanna take math in college. fack. -------------------- ![]() "If at first you don’t succeed, call it version 1.0" | ||||||||
Posted: March 10, 2009 06:11 am ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Matt|Georgio9 Group: Emeritus Posts: 706 Member No.: 94 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Unless you're going into electrical engineering (like me) or some kind of crazy pure physics or you're just looking to pick up a math course, you won't need to take a complex analysis course like what I'm taking. Sure it'll be good to know how to deal with imaginary numbers....well even real numbers in cylindrical coordinates or polar coordinates but you probably won't use them. besides, there are calculators that can do all this stuff for you. PS - No one actually likes math, it's just something that comes along with other courses. That only people who like math are majoring in it or are just straight up unbalanced. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||||
Posted: March 10, 2009 01:18 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Olivier1o1 Group: Guest Posts: 208 Member No.: 1744 Joined: February 27, 2009 Total Events Attended: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Actually Mr. Death, you're wrong. It is possible to integrate ANYTHING. It can just be a pain to do, and you may end up with an infinite (taylor) series. But everything is integratable. x^x is (lnx+1)*x^x*x+(x^(X-1))*(x*lnx^2+2xlnx+x+1)*x^2/2........ as I said, it's a pain.... that series goes on, and on, generalized by this: F^N(x)*x^n/n!, where f^n(x) is the nth derivative., and n is the number in the sequence. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: March 12, 2009 10:49 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Clan Friend Posts: 31 Member No.: 1716 Joined: February 13, 2009 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
lol he speaks the truth, anything that can be graphed can be integrated, that is to say it has area underneath its curve. depending on the limits, it could be infinite depending on the curve, it could be really hard to find, and it even if you can find it, you may end up with something that just makes you go "wtf am i supposed to do with you?" -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: March 13, 2009 02:17 pm ![]() | |||||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Olivier1o1 Group: Guest Posts: 208 Member No.: 1744 Joined: February 27, 2009 Total Events Attended: 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() | it is infinite, that's the point of a taylor series. The only question is, how accurate do you want your approximation? Within the first few terms, you get more and more accurate, and the further from 0, the less accurate.... kinda complicated, but meh. it works. =D Olivier:1 unbelievers:0 -------------------- | ||||||||