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Posted: April 12, 2009 07:13 pmTop
   
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WG - The big name clan you go to if you don't feel particularly nerdy.


I'm thinking of making "casual gaming" a new aspect of WG to showcase.
Since WG does not ask for extended run-ins, late nights, multiple rune sets, high levels, training, activity over every day etc...

We're probably one of the stronger clans out there that allows the members room to breathe.
You don't have to be deeply into RS to be in WG.
When you think about it - ignoring numbers, if you want to get stronger than WG, you have to return excessively and spend a lot of time getting rich.
Casual WG is what I want to express to future members.
I'm planning to toss around the word nerd a bit, being careful not to offend other clans.
Because we're casual, we pay attention to Runescape in a different way.
We realise we're never going to be up at the top alongside DF, EH and Cor because we don't want to waste our lives on PKRIs. As a result of the realisation we're not going to go to that level, we're happy with moderate strength, and we compensate by offering new avenues to enjoyment such as alternate events.

Hopefully, by marketing a casual WG, we can get more members. The idea is to make our strength through numbers. So we can't return like DF, but say we had 200 members at some stage... yeah.

Do I have the clan's approval to do this?
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 07:17 pmTop
   


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Sure, I liked that about WG in the first place. I don't want to spend all day in some PKRI.
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 07:20 pmTop
   


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Didn't we have like some big drop party for something very similar to this #
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 07:21 pmTop
   
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That was a CLASSIC CLAN campaign from before they removed the wilderness.
That was all about promoting wars and frowning on returning.
It was a big statement saying WG stood by the old warring tradition.
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 10:14 pmTop
   
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Sure, pretty much embraces what we already are. laugh.gif I'm confident a comfortable clan with a large enough member base can easily compete with anyone else.
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 10:17 pmTop
   
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Sounds good to me. thumbsup.gif
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 10:19 pmTop
   
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Sure. That's why I'm in WG. Casual atmosphere, yet still skilled in the ways of combat.
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 10:32 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ April 12, 2009 07:17 pm)
Sure, I liked that about WG in the first place. I don't want to spend all day in some PKRI.

This and what Colin says. I like the idea, just be careful with the word "nerd."
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 10:42 pmTop
   
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Mm yah that's ok with me.
There is a small risk that some people will not want to join because of it, but only a small risk.
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 10:43 pmTop
   
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Maybe use addicts, or a synonym of "nerd" that people may seem less offensive. "Nerd" is used a lot in school to hurt peoples feelings. hash.png
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 11:15 pmTop
   
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Sounds good. No way in hell can i dedicate 14 hours to a pkri as it has been reportedly had.
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 11:19 pmTop
   
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I like the idea. woeh.gif
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 12:13 amTop
   
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yes naize croot plox we should make a category called recruitment and we should put all the links to all the diff forums (would make it so much easier) and members could just click on it and bump,

also for a home for recruiting events like soul wars, clan wars, maybe even castle wars, hmm...recruitment parades, pvp
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 12:40 amTop
   
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As long as we don't lie, I am for it.

I don't want to say we are "Casual WG" and in 3 months the warring turns to let's be the top clan of RS. Make sure that this is who you want us to be and not some recruitment drive that hurts us in the months to follow. We should be recruiting the people who will fit best into our community.

Trying new things is usually good as long as caution is used.
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 01:39 amTop
   
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Sounds like a fantastic idea, but a few things to look out for.

1) If you make such a statement, its important to stick with it. That means not stressing out over pk run-ins and wars (which has been done plenty of times) and not being overly strict. Its easy to get caught up in the moment.

2) And make sure we still have direction. Just because we're not aiming for the top of the f2p PK run-in ranks, it doesn't mean we're not aiming for some form of top. Balancing community and skills with PKing isn't exuse to pay less attention to either.

I'm lookin forward to it
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 01:39 amTop
   
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Sure as long as casual doesn't get blurred with inactivity and lack of effort/time you put into the clan. When there is a war/raid, I want people to be there hash.png. But overall good idea.
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 03:34 amTop
   
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Good Idea, but as Tunac and Rach have said already there is no point recruiting using a specific message if you aren't going to stick to it.

If you are marketing WG as the 'Casual but good' clan make sure it stays that way.
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 04:05 amTop
   
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I think if you say we are a casual clan, people may think we're just excusing mediocrity. I'm in support of this. However, just be careful how you put it. Don't make it sound like we aren't serious about warring.
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 02:01 pmTop
   
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I am thinking war is to important to certain members and it will cause drama.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
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Posted: April 13, 2009 05:35 pmTop
   
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This sounds about right, but using it as a marketing campaign could easily come back and bite us in the ass. I could see it bringing in a lot of people ready to lounge around in the clan but be inactive as hell ingame just because we're "casual".
 
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Posted: April 15, 2009 02:49 pmTop
   


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Balance. That's what popped into my head while reading throughout the idea. We wan to have the best of both worlds, and we can. I don't exactly believe "nerd" may be the best way to go bout differentiating between groups in a gaming world.

There are two sides of the spectrum in my eyes, Casual & Hardcore, is what separates these two people in WoW terms, since I believe they can ft in this case as well. Casual is the regular player, who most likely isn't tp of the line, nor strives to be. That doesn't exactly mean they're worse at the game, but their time investment isn't as large in it. Whilst "Hardcore" members tend to take the game into a much more serious mindset, dedicating hours to it in order to achieve the best. Something that you might want to make clear is that there is no correct choice, both sides if their positives and negatives, it's a matter of how much time you'd like to spend to go either way.

Now, how about we go a different direction in WG. Why don't we take the casual time schedule mixed with the type of players brought from the hardcore side. We could stick with a minimal schedule, but we need to strive to have the events that are on that schedule be the best that we can make them. It needs to be professional. Let's say it's rad time: At that point all your focus should be to shift on making this raid perfect, or,, to make it "hardcore".

We want to hold the standards of this hardcore style in our events, while only having those events casually. Therefore, time investment is still low, but quality doesn't suffer. Of course, this is much easier said than done. But if it were to be pulled off, we just appealed to every player we can in Runescape that is looking to be in a clan. We've covered both sides of the spectrum. Not t mention, we just opened up an entirely new option. How many of the members in top clans do you think would lie t be able to spend more time outside the game, but doing so would cost them to loose that experience they had while in that clan.


Edit: Many spelling / grammar errors. I'll rephrase it once I'm on a desktop instead of this laptop.
 
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Posted: April 15, 2009 03:07 pmTop
   


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I sense a WTF coming from some people- you're "casual", and #3 on the raw!? lolies happy.gif My full support, just so I can see that.
 
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Posted: April 15, 2009 03:12 pmTop
   
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I want members coming in that actually play RS.
Just keep that in mind.
 
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Posted: April 15, 2009 03:14 pmTop
   


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The activity requirements won't change, I think. So if they think casual = inactive, they'll get a big suprise.
 
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Posted: April 15, 2009 03:30 pmTop
   


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Aye - Casual is no way meant to mean inactive. It simply means, they do not focus all their available time on improving their characters, or abilities at the game. It simply means they don't have the time to dedicate multiple hours a day to it. But in the end, we don't need multiples of hours. All we need is a few of them every week to make those events the best it's possible for them to be.
 
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