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 Power abuse complaint.
Posted: April 13, 2009 05:55 pmTop
   
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Having a heated debate in IRC.

Insults flying right left and centre, towards members and ex members alike, regarding the recent 26k glitch bannings.

As soon as Andrew is challenged, he brings out his banhammer.

Power abuse is not warrented.

This follows Andrew's remark that everyone who experimented with the glitch should be banned, which includes several WG members.

(Mon 17:53:28) <Mugger84> Who the **** are you andrew
(Mon 17:53:29) * +Wayne|Eregion2 laughs. This whole game is about getting pixels!
(Mon 17:53:36) <%Groedius> I am andrew
(Mon 17:53:39) <+Pete|Fifa> He's Andrew of the south
(Mon 17:53:39) <Mugger84> apparently not
(Mon 17:53:47) <Mugger84> the person i thought i knew cared about the individuals
(Mon 17:53:48) <+Pete|Fifa> he haf big ears
(Mon 17:53:52) <Mugger84> apparently not
(Mon 17:53:53) * Groedius sets mode: +b *!*@Swift-D6D44C5B.range81-157.btcentralplus.com
(Mon 17:53:53) * You were kicked from #wg_lobby by Groedius (Bye)

~Mugger84

Edit: CC'd to His Lordship
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:05 pmTop
   


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This video explains all please take the time to watch (Read Video Description too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ysZC1vvQM

The song is a exlusive choice also.

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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:05 pmTop
   
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lol
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:05 pmTop
   
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the debate was so intense and i just HAD to throw my part of bating into it as you can see right there i said he was Andrew of the south and he haf big ears.

LIKE OMG, he banned you for the "who the fuck are you" part, lol. One would assume. madeoface.gif
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:07 pmTop
   
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did you file for rape?
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:08 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (dewid5 @ April 13, 2009 01:05 pm)
This video explains all please take the time to watch (Read Video Description too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ysZC1vvQM

The song is a exlusive choice also.

~ D.j.w

Please look this is important.

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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:14 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (dewid5 @ April 14, 2009 02:05 am)
This video explains all please take the time to watch (Read Video Description too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ysZC1vvQM

The song is a exlusive choice also.

~ D.j.w

If he is indeed questionable in terms of abuse, then I would think this is no better, the same or maybe even worse...the kind that has nothing better to do than to enjoy others' misgivings.

Likewise for anyone who laughs, its unfortunate and a shame that you don't see yourself as the same shame.
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:16 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Valdremia @ April 13, 2009 01:14 pm)
QUOTE (dewid5 @ April 14, 2009 02:05 am)
This video explains all please take the time to watch (Read Video Description too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ysZC1vvQM

The song is a exlusive choice also.

~ D.j.w

If he is indeed questionable in terms of abuse, then I would think this is no better, the same or maybe even worse...the kind that has nothing better to do than to enjoy others' misgivings.

Likewise for anyone who laughs, its a shame that you don't see yourself as the same shame.

Took the exact words out of my mouth!
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:17 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (dewid5 @ April 14, 2009 02:16 am)
QUOTE (Valdremia @ April 13, 2009 01:14 pm)
QUOTE (dewid5 @ April 14, 2009 02:05 am)
This video explains all please take the time to watch (Read Video Description too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ysZC1vvQM

The song is a exlusive choice also.

~ D.j.w

If he is indeed questionable in terms of abuse, then I would think this is no better, the same or maybe even worse...the kind that has nothing better to do than to enjoy others' misgivings.

Likewise for anyone who laughs, its a shame that you don't see yourself as the same shame.

Took the exact words out of my mouth!

Yes, and you have just sealed the point. Well done!
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:19 pmTop
   
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oh ye, groe loves banning people..every1 knows that.
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:27 pmTop
   
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(Mon 17:53:28) <Mugger84> Who the **** are you andrew

Why did you say that line? Andrew voiced his opinion, you could have simply ignored it, or constructively criticised it.

I think if a Member said that to one of our higher ups they would have been punished, Seriously Mugger lol xD

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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:33 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Abmanju @ April 13, 2009 06:27 pm)
(Mon 17:53:28) <Mugger84> Who the **** are you andrew

Why did you say that line? Andrew voiced his opinion, you could have simply ignored it, or constructively criticised it.

I think if a Member said that to one of our higher ups they would have been punished, Seriously Mugger lol xD

~Abs

As shown by the following lines, when put together, the sentence is like:

"Who the **** are you Andrew? The Andrew I knew cared about the individuals..."

Not a flame by any lengths.

Edit: Not even an insult
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:46 pmTop
   
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The conversation was getting elevated; frankly I think the quickest way to defuse it would have been to set the channel so that only h-op or higher could talk at all and leave it there for about a minute, but banning Mugger had a similar effect (and he was let back in soon after).

Not saying it was right or wrong, but it was effective and I think it was warranted.

That aside, my opinion doesn't matter. This should be a PM to council. wink.gif
 
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Posted: April 13, 2009 06:57 pmTop
   
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You are taking this way out of proportion.
Stop being a troll and return to DF matters.
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 04:52 amTop
   
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Sometimes second line comments mean you have had second thoughts as well. . . I hope that isn't the case.

Our staff deserves some respect from our guests in the lobby.
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 06:14 amTop
   
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lul hai guys just trollin
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 04:20 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Havochaha @ April 14, 2009 01:14 am)
lul hai guys just trollin

I'm trolling while I'm trolling so I'm a better troll than you sir. hash.png

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Care to troll the basket of biscuits?
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 05:00 pmTop
   


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My name is Mugger84 and now that I joined DF I am entitled to be a whiney brat but the Mugger84 I used to be wasn't. /non insult by your standards
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 07:45 pmTop
   
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Well I was there for the whole incident so I'm what you call an eye-witness, so I get to speak happy.gif

I think that...

1. Andrew's reaction to Mugger's statements and his decision to ban him upon such without any sort of verbal warning was a bit too far. Considering the positions of the two people involved (A ranked WG member and a DF member) it has knock-on effects like this which should have been forseen and prevented.

But I also think...

2. Mugger's replies to Andrew's prior opinions were rather impolite and I agree with Abs and think that Mugger could have challenged or criticisized the opinions more constructively... after all you can't say "Who the **** are you Andrew?" and not expect everyone to start flaming or ultimately someone gets kicked.

There's my opinion on the matter.
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 08:33 pmTop
   
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If someone said 'Who the **** are you' to me I wouldn't be right impressed either. If you're going to flame a half-op, you can expect that you won't be in there for long. He's entitled to his opinion.

But that said, was a bit forward to ban you on the spot. More verbal warning would be a better way around it. Lessons learned for next time.

I hoped you talked to andrew privately about this before making a public rant. Did you? If not, you're causing a soap opera for no reason.
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 09:19 pmTop
   
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THERE WAS A DEBATE AND I WASNT INVITED?!?! THIS IS BLASPHEMY
 
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lul, cue e-drama
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 10:11 pmTop
   
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It is not like Mugger was banned for long. He was banned for roughly 30 seconds I would say. He is just trying to cause e-drama. I would have done the exact same thing in Groe's place, and all he did was gave Mugger an "extended" kick, due to many people having re-join on kick on.
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 10:35 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Eregion2 @ April 14, 2009 04:20 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ April 14, 2009 01:14 am)
lul hai guys just trollin

I'm trolling while I'm trolling so I'm a better troll than you sir. hash.png

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Care to troll the basket of biscuits?

were out the trollin trolly ate them would you like some troll jam with taht troll pancake?
 
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Posted: April 14, 2009 10:36 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ April 14, 2009 10:11 pm)
It is not like Mugger was banned for long. He was banned for roughly 30 seconds I would say. He is just trying to cause e-drama. I would have done the exact same thing in Groe's place, and all he did was gave Mugger an "extended" kick, due to many people having re-join on kick on.

Be fun when he finds out what real-world drama is like when he works Lul if he goes off it about the slightest thing that nobody cares about he'll get bitched at like a lil girl neko2.gif

No offence btw. neko2.gif
 
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