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Posted: May 1, 2009 10:13 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: {Rene} Group: Guest Posts: 838 Member No.: 267 Joined: February 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1/0" is a paradox; in a way that "0/1" is not. Nothing can be divided by zero. If one approaches the formula from the positive side, it would appear that the answer is an infinite positive value. If one approaches the formula from the negative side, the opposite is true. Thus, anything divided by zero is simultaneously positive and negative infinity. "One over Zero" is a paradox in another way too, in a way that transcends mere arithmetic. One is something, and Zero is nothing. The fact that the universe holds something over nothing, that it prefers to exist, rather than not exist, is fundamentally absurd. No being can ever come to deserve its own birth. 1/0 is a cry out against mere logic and efficiency. Stuff exists. All existence, all truth, cannot be ultimately justified: it can only be described, explained, and enjoyed. 1/0 is illogical. 1/0 is irrational. 1/0 is impossible. 1/0 is transcendentally unfair. 1/0 is true. Deal with it. OH SHI- -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 10:36 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Holy fuck. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 12:12 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 ![]() ![]() ![]() | 42 -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 12:39 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | zero is not nothing, zero is a value. the absence of value is nothing, such as an asymptote or limit in math. and yes, you are correct. existence really cannot be justified. we're just here. it's just a game, and you've got to play the game to win. btw 1/0 isn't infinity, it is simply undefined. also you just lost -^ -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- ![]() W I N N I N G | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 02:03 pm ![]() | |||||||
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Awesome let's define it together? ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 04:13 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Matt|Multi Group: Emeritus Posts: 668 Member No.: 49 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 12 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wrong. It is simultaneously both negative and positive infinity. Look it up. Also, the fact that 1/0 is irrational is EXTREMELY good. There's a false proof (again, look it up) that all numbers are equal which is only false because you can't divide by 0. So if we could divide by 0, then 23 and 89234283740284702 would be the same thing. -------------------- Born at sea, baptized in blood your fame will never die. Your Division is one of the best if not the best division in the history of American arms -Gen George S Patton on the 45th Infantry Division ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 04:49 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | i dun no mathz, i just make up stoofz. DIVIDE BY ZERO = WORLD IMPLOSION, DUN DO EET. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- ![]() W I N N I N G | ||||||
Posted: May 1, 2009 07:42 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2 Member No.: 1405 Joined: October 26, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() | So... what's 0/0? -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 2, 2009 03:25 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
it's either 1 or 0. i think it's 1. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- ![]() W I N N I N G | ||||||
Posted: May 2, 2009 03:43 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Matt|Multi Group: Emeritus Posts: 668 Member No.: 49 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 12 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
0/0 is the same case as 1/0 I do believe. Both negative and positive infinity (Though don't argue that to your math teacher before you go to College, just put undefined if you dun wanna be raped). I may be wrong on that point though, so do please correct me if I am. -------------------- Born at sea, baptized in blood your fame will never die. Your Division is one of the best if not the best division in the history of American arms -Gen George S Patton on the 45th Infantry Division ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 2, 2009 01:46 pm ![]() | |||||||
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Ok, here's my rule. Keanu's Law of Mathematics: "0 and ∞ are concepts, not numbers" 0 being the concept of a lack of value and ∞ being the concept of an infinite value. A Problem: 1 / 0 If one takes the value 1 to be a complete value (As opposed to a partial value, eg. 0.5 or a higher value eg. 1.5), then dividing 1 by 0 is like dividing a complete value by the concept of a lack of value. Since there is a value to the number 1, or for that matter any number which is not 0 or ∞, it is like asking the question, "How much nothing is there in something?" The answer of course has multiple possible solutions, similar to asking the question, "What's the opposite of cat?" which could be answered with a variety of responses such as "Dog", "Mouse", or even "Inverse Cat". For the moment there are two probable outcomes. A Solution 1: Implicating that 1 is equal to 100% If 1 is taken to be 100%, as is often the case, then the question "How much nothing is there in something?" will be interpreted as the amount of "nothing" in 100% (Or 1). Since 100% of anything is a complete value, the amount of nothing in a complete value will always be nothing, or in mathematical terms, the concept of 0. So, Solution 1: 1 / 0 = 0 Or, when X = 100%, X / 0 = 0 A Solution 2: Implicating that 1 is NOT equal to 100% If 1 is not taken to be 100%, the same principle applies, but requires a value or concept which implies everything. This concept is of course, ∞. So, the question 1 / 0 would be answered with the value of everything else which is greater than the value 1, which in turn would be ∞ - 1. So, Solution 2: 1 / 0 = ∞ - 1 Or, when X ≠ 100%, X / 0 = ∞ - X B Problem: 0 / 0 Still taking into account the concept of 0, dividing 0 by 0 is like asking "How much nothing is there in nothing?". Much in the same way that asking "How much nothing is there in (14 / 20)?". The answer is 6. This is determined by interpreting 20 as 100% and 14 as the concept of something. The value 6 does not literally exist, but represents the lack of vaue (Or 30% missing, as 14 / 20 is an incomplete value) B Solutions: The possible solutions for 0 / 0 are as follows: 0 / 0 = 100% ... Determined from the amount of nothing in nothing being everything in nothing. Similarly: 0 / 0 = 1 ... When 1 = 100%, for the reason above. To imply the concept of everything being the amount of nothing in nothing: 0 / 0 = ∞ ... Taking ∞ to be a value of 100%. In algebraic terms: 0 / 0 = X when X = 100% -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: May 2, 2009 02:11 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | 0 is a value of 0, it isn't a lack of value lol. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- ![]() W I N N I N G | ||||||
Posted: May 2, 2009 02:17 pm ![]() | |||||||
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Posted: May 2, 2009 06:59 pm ![]() | |||||||
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It's both actually, because a value of 0 actually has no value so there is a lack of value ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||