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New Voice-chat program, currently under test

RobbieThe1st

Posted: November 29, 2009 06:05 am

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You all said that TS had horrible voice quality. Fair enough, I understand. You all wanted Ventrillo, but its expensive. So, I think I found a solution:
Mumble.
Its a free, Open-Source voice-chat program.

I have tested it out with a few WG members, and they agree that it is at least Ventrillo quality. One even said that after installing and configuring it, Teamspeak sounded a lot better(It may very well have changed TS's codec configuration).

It has clients for Windows, Mac and Linux.

So, this Aussie Raid, we are going to test it.

Here is what you need to do:
(windows)
Download the Client here: 1.1.8 or 1.2.0 beta
Install it. If asked, select the "backwards compatible client".
Run Mumble. Upon startup, it will ask you if you wish to go through the audio wizard. You don't have to, but if you notice any sound problems, go run the wizard(via Configure menu). By default, Mumble has Voice-activation enabled, but Push-to-talk works fine.

Now join a server:
Click the Server menu, click Connect.
On the Custom Servers page, put in these settings:
Label: "Test servers"
Address: 'voice.freemumble.de'
Port: '65411'
Username: Your RS username
Password: Leave blank.

Now click Connect.

Join a channel:
Double-click on the "#8 PUBLIC" channel to join.

NOTE: This is just some random server I picked. We may have to change later, but for tonight's test, it should be fine.
And, if we like it, I can get our own unlimited server setup on our hosting, so no worries there.

-Robbie

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Nick

Posted: November 29, 2009 06:10 am

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What is the difference in price of servers in hosting TS and hosting this?

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Furia Deorum

Posted: November 29, 2009 06:20 am

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We're stealing some crazy German server right now. It's in beta, so I assume that it's free right now.

I do have to confirm Robbie's sentiments though. Voice Quality on Mumble>>>>TS.

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RobbieThe1st

Posted: November 29, 2009 06:58 am

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Well, thats the benefit of Open-Source software. Its licensed under a BSD license, which to the best of my knowledge means that now only can they not charge money for it, they cant make a new version under a license where they can charge money. Essentially, it is free, and will always be free.

Unlike Teamspeak, we can host an Unlimited person server ourselves, and actually sell slots if we want(and not pay anyone for the privilege). With Teamspeak, we could host a 1000 person server, and NOT sell any slots.

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Elyxiatic

Posted: November 29, 2009 09:13 am

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Great program.
But I'm not wasting 2 hrs running around with 10 people in f2p just to test it.
Am I the only one bored of the same old pile-get dragged-regroup technique every f2p raid consists of?

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Rodney75

Posted: November 29, 2009 11:50 am

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looks good, will download and give it a go when I get back home

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WG_Keanu

Posted: November 29, 2009 02:52 pm

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Why does everyone hate TS? "Switch to Vent" "What about Skype?" "Try Mumble" is all I ever hear on the forums... seriously TS IS NOT THAT BAD

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Quikdrawjoe

Posted: November 29, 2009 03:09 pm

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Robbie you beast

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Sxe Asher

Posted: November 29, 2009 03:19 pm

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QUOTE	WG_Keanu @ July 02, 2009 02:52 pm)

Why does everyone hate TS? "Switch to Vent" "What about Skype?" "Try Mumble" is all I ever hear on the forums... seriously TS IS NOT THAT BAD

I agree. I really don't notice any problems with the actual program.

A lot of people said they had trouble with hearing people correctly and whatever. The situation is really, really, really simple.

Settings >> Options >> Direct Sound Buffer size - and drag it all the way to the right

This makes the sound quality a hell of a lot better because more sound frequencies can be sent faster and clearer via your Mic and PC (I THINK).

Also, just have everyone turn up their mics so we can hear them easier.

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Back to Own

Posted: November 29, 2009 05:45 pm

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I've used TS for 3 years in WG, and I've been using vent for the past 6 months. Trust me, its VERY helpful.

In the P2P fight we just had, it became really confusing when multiple people were trying to contribute info. At many times you couldnt understand anything at all.

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WG_Keanu

Posted: November 29, 2009 07:15 pm

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QUOTE	Back to Own @ November 29, 2009 06:45 pm)

I thought you muted the channel during fights?

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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

RobbieThe1st

Posted: November 29, 2009 10:54 pm

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A little off topic guys... How good is Mumble compared to Ventrillo or TS.

I want ratings in terms of:
1. Sound quality
2. Laggyness
3. Program features

Note:
a couple helpful things are to A, go through the audio wizard - its very useful. B, if you go to the audio menu, and uncheck "text to speech", that disables the annoying robo-voice.

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Zemus3654

Posted: November 30, 2009 03:11 am

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		I want ratings in terms of: 1. Sound quality

- Much clearer than TS, id say 9/10, maybe 10


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		2. Laggyness

- didnt notice any lag from it at all.


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		3. Program features

- Havent had much time to check out all the features and all, but just from yesterday it seems TS has better features than mumble, but could be wrong.


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		Note: If you go to the audio menu, and uncheck "text to speech", that disables the annoying robo-voice.

That guy sounds hot

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Posted: November 30, 2009 03:15 am

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Only problem is that literally no one but us has it so allied PKs might be troublesome. Other than that, everything is much clearer.

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ImBryanMan

Posted: November 30, 2009 03:19 am

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I like it.

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RobbieThe1st

Posted: November 30, 2009 05:22 am

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QUOTE	Guardian_KR @ November 30, 2009 03:15 am)

Only problem is that literally no one but us has it so allied PKs might be troublesome. Other than that, everything is much clearer.

Eh, not hard to download and install. On the plus side though, most annoying spammers and noobs aren't going to take the time to download it and install, just to try to annoy us.

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WG_Keanu

Posted: November 30, 2009 05:47 pm

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QUOTE	RobbieThe2nd @ November 29, 2009 11:54 pm)

1. Sound quality
2. Laggyness

1. If I can hear people, which I can on TS, I'm fine.
2. If it doesn't lag (Which it won't cause I'm on fibre optic broadband) I'm fine


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		3. Program features

TS is fine.

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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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RobbieThe1st

Posted: November 30, 2009 10:15 pm

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QUOTE	WG_Keanu @ November 30, 2009 05:47 pm)

QUOTE	RobbieThe2nd
	November 29, 2009 11:54 pm

1. Sound quality
2. Laggyness

1. If I can hear people, which I can on TS, I'm fine.
2. If it doesn't lag (Which it won't cause I'm on fibre optic broadband) I'm fine


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		3. Program features

TS is fine.

You haven't even tried it out, therefor your opinion doesn't count.

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rachellove9

Posted: December 1, 2009 03:48 am

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It was much clearer, but when I tried to get back on I had a hard time with that. It wasn't just a click and on like ts. I don't know I might have something that is interfering with it loading up. (It may be time for me to upgrade my pc or new one.)

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RobbieThe1st

Posted: December 1, 2009 05:08 am

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QUOTE	rachellove9 @ December 01, 2009 03:48 am)

You see this post people? THIS is what I want. Some information about "I tried it, and ran into a problem". Its impossible for me to fix things I have no clue about.

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Rach, could you explain in further detail? If you need a screenshot to help you explain, go right ahead. This sounds like something I need to be aware of.

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WG_Keanu

Posted: December 1, 2009 10:13 am

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QUOTE	RobbieThe2nd
	November 30, 2009 11:15 pm

QUOTE	WG_Keanu
	November 30, 2009 05:47 pm

QUOTE	RobbieThe2nd
	November 29, 2009 11:54 pm

1. Sound quality
2. Laggyness

1. If I can hear people, which I can on TS, I'm fine.
2. If it doesn't lag (Which it won't cause I'm on fibre optic broadband) I'm fine


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		3. Program features

TS is fine.

You haven't even tried it out, therefor your opinion doesn't count.

I've been through about 30 communities and syndicates in my time and have tried a range of VoIP's. I have RARELY heard of Mumble and from what I've heard from friends who use such software, it's nothing brilliant and they much prefer Skype or Vent.

I have no objection to switching to anything, but if you want to go through the hassle of it I reccomend Vent. It's got the sound quality and features of everything else but a lot of people will have previous experience with it.

By the way:

TBE - TS
TDM - TS
Sabres - Vent
ZT - TS

Compatibility, convenience, experience... is it really worth the switch to something like Mumble... for anyone?

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Maxrobinsun

Posted: December 2, 2009 10:57 pm

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My Computer Gaming Society at Uni uses Mumble for our gaming and it's pretty decent.

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