It's also possible there are infinite degrees of the infinite degree of infinity.
 
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Oh really? Give me an example of one thing you can do with a first degree infinite number.

Nothing. Because THEN IT WOULDN'T BE INFINITY, NOW WOULD IT?

gf, he tried.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

Your face is incongruous. Funny how you can't distance yourself from math-talk.

 
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LMFAO... the ultimate WAT
 
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Mind = blown
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

It's also possible there are infinite degrees of the infinite degree of infinity.

It's also possible it's completely useless.
 
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Mind = blown

Now THAT actually blew my mind.

 
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You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. Math and Science do not conform to pre-conceived notions based on what YOU think is true. They follow their own rules.
 
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You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. Math and Science do not conform to pre-conceived notions based on what YOU think is true. They follow their own rules.

its not what i think, the definition is from the dictionary written by our brightest minds. not a no lifer that plays a kid game.

that felt good. want some more?

also, you must understand that although math holds the logic and science binds the proof. one cannot go about life with knowledge alone and thus.

the infinite factor is by far and endless possibility and by no means defaults a degree of explanation nor by exterior determination such as math or science.



 
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...Ow. My brain hurts.
 
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You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. Math and Science do not conform to pre-conceived notions based on what YOU think is true. They follow their own rules.

its not what i think, the definition is from the dictionary written by our brightest minds. not a no lifer that plays a kid game.

that felt good. want some more?

also, you must understand that although math holds the logic and science binds the proof. one cannot go about life with knowledge alone and thus.

the infinite factor is by far and endless possibility and by no means defaults a degree of explanation nor by exterior determination such as math or science.

Ah. Resulting to personal attacks to win an argument, cute but ineffective. You don't know a thing about me, don't pretend to.

By the way, ever look into how a word is defined in the dictionary? Here's a hint. Common usage. Also, our so called "greatest minds" have better things to do than waste their time defining words. Ever wonder why the same word can be defined differently based on which dictionary you look in?

Typical misunderstanding of the concept of infinity. I blame public schools, but that's just me. Here's a fun little problem for you. 0.999999 repeating forever, is also exactly equal to what number? The answer, is 1. But that's impossible you say. Allow me to explain.

Let us hypothesize that 0.999 repeating is in fact, NOT equal to 1. If this is the case, then we can agree that there is some number, n, that we can add to 0.999 to make it 1, correct? We must also be in agreement, that this number n, is the smallest, positive, non-zero number in existence in fact. We must be able to divide this number in half then, based on its properties. However, it is the smallest non-zero positive number in existence, and thus can't be divided. Therefore, this number n, does not exist. 0.999 is in fact equal to 1.

Now, the point of the above example was an attempt to illustrate to you that math and science do not always conform to what we deem as "logical". They follow their own, more perfect set of rules. Rules we are still only beginning to understand.

Infinity is a concept, a theory, created by man to explain something we can't understand. Now, when facts change, as they constantly are in this day and age of scientific discovery, do you change the facts to suit the theory, or theory to suit the facts. I know what I do, and what the rest of the scientific world does, we change the theory.
 
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I have to disagree, J.R.R.Tolkien worked on the Oxford English Dictionary for quite awhile. Just nitpicking.

In terms of infinity, your definition still holds true. A first degree infinite is still infinite, just as infinite as any other degree of infinity. The differences I'm trying to explain are infinitesimally more subtle than that. Here's an example:

A = {1, 2, 3, 4, ... }
B = {2, 4, 6, 8, ... }

Both sets A and B are infinite, and contain an infinite number of elements. But also, purely through layman's logic, set A should be twice the size of set B since it includes all positive integers while set B only includes even positive integers.

That's NOT strictly what different degrees of infinity incorporate, but it's a good example. Basically not all infinities are created equally. But seriously, this is a very, very raw concept even in today's mathematics. No one has made any significant headway in it in several decades.

In fact, two new axioms came out of this line of reasoning about infinity, but they're so totally, radically off par in comparison to the rest of mathematics it's actually been proven that both these axioms are ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to the rest of the axioms of mathematics and the same is true in reverse.

They have absolutely no bearing on one another; that's how crazy this shit is. Cantor was basically discovering mathematics that's so far off the fall of what we can comprehend and work with you can't even USE the mathematics we've already got to evaluate it. Entirely "new" rules apply ("new" being, the rules have existed for all eternity, but we're just now discovering them).

This is crazy stuff. But it's TRUE. And this is why I like math. It's genuinely awesome.

PS: Something about that 10th dimension video bothers me. If I can narrow it down I'll expand on it later.
 
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