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Posted: April 30, 2010 07:56 pm  | |||||||||
      IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155    | ( I know Marijuana is legalized in certain places, but I'm talking about all the places that aren't ) I'm curious as to what other peoples views are and why they think the way they do. So let's answer a little survey if your bored enough.  Form:
How old are you? 22 Should marijuana be legalized? For medicinal use. If so why, if not why not? For the longest I was going to vote for it to be legalized period, but after some deep thought I am not sure. At first it was mainly because it would allow anyone to grow, which is bad for me because I make a legal living off growing Marijuana for dispensaries. Which would lower the overall price and demand. Then I realized I was being greedy and started to forget about that, but even after that I started to think how there is always some idiot who has to ruin it for everyone else, which made me want to vote no again. My decision so far is to vote yes for medical use, which is legal at the moment in 14 states and easy enough to obtain a recommendation. Do you smoke?Daily. Now I'm curious to see other views on it. Looking forward.  --------------------  The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011        | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 08:00 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | How old are you? 17, almost 18. Should marijuana be legalized? No. Not even for medicinal use. If so why, if not why not? Society can function perfectly fine without the use of marijuana as we have seen in England. Since humans can exist without it, then why legalise it? We don't NEED it for medicinal purposes, as we have seen recently, since other drugs have been researched and manufactured that serve exactly the same purpose. Do you smoke? Definitely not. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 08:04 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | But these alternative drugs are habit forming and have several side effects. If vaporized or eaten, theirs no side effects other then short term memory loss. We also lived fine with them back in the '60s -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 08:43 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Groedius Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1556 Member No.: 99 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 256 | How old are you?19 Should marijuana be legalized?No If so why, if not why not?No need to do it plus it will start other things like being high and driving etc and we already have enough shit without legalizing this Do you smoke?No --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 08:48 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | Being high and driving isn't really a problem, I drive and operate fine everyday, and there is a reason to legalized. Theirs hundreds of ways it could help medicinally, it is even proven to slow down tumors. Not to mention it helps women with PMS which is always a plus lol. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 09:34 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | How old are you? 17 Should marijuana be legalized? Medical use only If so why, if not why not? Lets be realistic, if it was legal then our youth would be ****ed. It sends the wrong message that drugs are ok. While weed itself isn't harmful, I can guarantee you majority of people that smoke it daily also smoke cigarettes and will eventually move up to more dangerous drugs. Medically, it's know to really help people so that's cool. Do you smoke? Yes --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 09:36 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | I agree with you about our youth being fucked. I smoke roughly over a ounce a week, and I don't smoke cigarettes or plan to progress to a different drug. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 09:59 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sum41xx Group: Emeritus Posts: 630 Member No.: 102 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | How old are you? 19 going on 20 Should marijuana be legalized? Yes If so why, if not why not? I think it should be legalized. For instance, in the form that Amsterdam has it. You go to a certain location to buy it and obviously you have to be a certain age. If you do this, it almost slides it into the same category as cigarettes. If you implemented and applied the same advertisements that we do on cigarettes to marijuana then you would not have to worry about the youth getting the wrong mentality about it. Frankly, I think there's not enough education about it in schools which makes youth more prone to trying marijuana because they don't see advertisement saying that it can lead to lung cancer (which it CAN). As well, this would create a market which governments would have control and regulation over. This means that there wouldn't be the worry for laced weed. I can guarantee you that at least 80% of the weed out there is laced with some type of chemical; at least 10% being some other type of drug (ex: cocaine). In addition to this I also have heard the cannabis can be used to make a sturdier and more biodegradable paper. Meaning we would not have to be killing as many trees. We all should know that paper mills really screw the environment over. So the excess cannabis would also create a paper market... which the kids learning about marijuana in school could write on  Lol sorry that was a bit of a joke there hehe.Anyways, I think if governments were to put enough regulation, education, and negotiation (the 3 'tions ) on legalizing marijuana that it would in fact work out. Yet unfortunately I don't think it will happen for a while because there is too much of a moral battle over it. 50% of people don't see a big deal with it, and then 50% hate it for multiple reasons.Do you smoke? Occasionally --------------------   Proud WG member since December 2003 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 10:08 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | Thanks for the post Sum-41xx. I didn't know that about the paper, that's just another wonderful reason.  If you smoke the Marijuana in a vaporizer or eat it, lung cancer will not be a side effect. I personally smoke it out of a joint because I like the taste better, but that's me. I know here in California it is pretty close to getting legalized, we are just waiting to vote. If it does get legalized here, you will be allowed to smoke if your 21 years of age, and it will be taxed. Over in San Fransisco their was a huge 4:20 event going on, which San Fransisco made it legal to smoke inside the building if you had a recommendation from a doctor. Things are looking bright. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 10:48 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sum41xx Group: Emeritus Posts: 630 Member No.: 102 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 |
That's good. I hope it does pass because I'm going to Cali in the summer hehe . A vaporizer though isn't full proof. There's still chemicals going directly to your lungs, if there weren't then you wouldn't get a buzz from it. Think of it this way, we know(well at least I do) that gasoline that you put in your car can actually get you high if you sniff. Now if you were to put a water block between your engine and the muffler and breath through the muffler to get high, do you think that there would be no chemicals passing through? The fact is that you're using combustion to get the THC out of the weed. THC is a small molecule that can pass through water but so can all the other gases. That's why when you exhale under water the CO2 and Oxygen that you exhale bubbles and rises to the top of the water. As well, there's smoke regardless and with the amount of THC in weed there's no way that it could form that white cloud of smoke. The point being that even with a vaporizer I'm sure it has the potential to cause cancer or at least some form of lung problems. After all, pretty much everything you inhale and smoke is not good for you. You're trying to justify weed, which I obviously don't say I'm against. However it is still harmful to your system. EDIT: I'm thinking of a bong... uhgg lol. But still, the vaporizer DOES emit some tar and some toxic chemical. Not a lot, but it does. -------------------- Proud WG member since December 2003 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 10:52 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 |
Yes, it is undoubtedly true that these alternative drugs can lead to addiction... but marijuana is JUST AS ADDICTIVE, if not more so. So how can you justify giving this to youths who will then become addicted to it? -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 10:57 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sum41xx Group: Emeritus Posts: 630 Member No.: 102 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 |
I don't mean to offend you in any way George however Marijuana has been scientifically inconclusive to addiction. The fact is that if you smoked weed for a whole year, you can easily stop and quite. If any one does build an addiction to it then it is most likely due to other factors, for example they use it to suppress their stress and don't know how else to, so they smoke. -------------------- Proud WG member since December 2003 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 11:02 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: dieyou2000 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 711 Member No.: 1300 Joined: August 28, 2008 Total Events Attended: 158 | How old are you? 17 Should marijuana be legalized? Yes. If so why, if not why not? I just don't think you should be able to tell other people what they can and can't put in their bodies. Hemp products are great for the environment, too. It's blatant hypocrisy that cigarettes are legal, but marijuana isn't. Cigarettes are about 100x as harmful and so is alcohol, but those are legal above a certain age at least. It's all just because it would cut in on sales for certain companies. America is run by corporations now if you haven't realized that yet, by the way. All you have to do is look at the oil spill that just occurred. It will cause untold devastation to wildlife, and the only reason it happened is because BP didn't want to spend an extra amount of cash to put a stopper on the pipes so that if a leak started, the flow of oil automatically shuts off. They fought regulations like this and so have banks and financial markets and Wall Street and look where that got us. A few people got ultra rich and the rest of us got fucked in the ass. But enough of my anti-capital rant that's gone totally off topic. Personally, I wish people didn't have to use marijuana to feel better, but I'm not going to stop anyone from doing it. Marijuana has virtually no side effects if used properly. Cigarettes put the smoker in danger, and others nearby at risk for second-hand smoke related issues. By the way smoking weed is not addictive. It's about as addictive as people who claim they are "alcoholics" say alcohol is addictive. Let me put this simply. Nobody is addicted to weed or alcohol. If you say you are, let me suggest a far simpler answer. You have absolutely no self-control. But then again people at Alcoholics Anonymous meetings are taught to give themselves up to a higher power and only then can they quit, so they are made to feel as if they can't quit themselves. Self-perpetuating shit is fun, huh? By the way good luck re-legalizing gay marriage. If I remember right that got repealed by a bunch of homophobes or whatever. Shouldn't even be put up to a vote in my opinion. We're talking about people's rights after all. You can't overrule the Constitution by a majority vote last I knew, so it should be legalized with full rights countrywide. Yeah lots of off topic shit, but I'm really pissed at stuff in general right now. I see America going down the gutter farther and farther every day. Do you smoke? No, and I never have and never will. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 11:04 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 |
No offense taken lol That's fine, I told you guys I didn't know much about it. I just assumed that it would be addictive as with other drugs... although I guess to be fair it would never be classified as class A or B if legalised, would it. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 11:17 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | How old are you? old enough Should marijuana be legalized? why not If so why, if not why not? might as well tax what people gonna do Do you smoke? no -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 11:23 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sum41xx Group: Emeritus Posts: 630 Member No.: 102 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 |
Yeah but class A, B, C or whichever category system a country uses for drugs is all based on law. When I look at this chart: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/drugs/drugs-law/Class-a-b-c/ I see A Class... makes sense. I see C class... makes sense. Then I see B class... What the F! It's honestly like looking at one of those suspect pictures where they put people up against a wall and the witness has to point out the criminal. Except there's one thing, every one of those drugs look like they belong there except for cannabis. It doesn't make any logical sense. And to Dieyou. I get what you're saying. The US is definitely hitting a hard time, especially environmentally and economically speaking. -------------------- Proud WG member since December 2003 | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 11:45 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Fire Lion Sword Group: Emeritus Posts: 1189 Member No.: 103 Joined: January 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 3 | How old are you? 19.75 Should marijuana be legalized? I think it should be controlled. If so why, if not why not? I think it should be controlled, as I do with virtually all other foreign, chemical substances that affect the brain. That is to say, I don't think it should be completely banned, nor do I agree that it should be glorified in the public. Although my knowledge of the legal structure is limited, I think legalizing a set amount to possess for certain groups seems fair; similar to alcohol. That is my diplomatic, unbiased opinion. As for my personal, more subjectively-based opinion... I'm not too fond of the idea of screwing around, getting high. About %65 of the people I know in my area smoke weed, and honestly, it's a burden trying to read how they're going to behave; there is a certain unpredictability factor. Do you smoke? No. -------------------- --------- 獅の炎 ----------  ----------- 忍☯者 ----------- | ||||||||
Posted: April 30, 2010 11:50 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | How old are you? 18 Should marijuana be legalized? Yes If so why, if not why not? I've seen what weed does to people who smoke it too much, and its not as terrible as you might think. It definitely isn't a good thing either. People who are "addicted" to alcohol usually end up with far more problems than people who excessively smoke weed. Tobacco addicts are debatable, but some say that tobacco is more harmful, I'm not really sure I have evidence to prove this. However, as long as marijuana isn't smoked, I know for sure that it has very few, if any long-term effects. When smoked it would likely lead to lung cancer. As stated above, if advertising was done properly then weed would be no different to youth than alcohol is, except not as harmful. It could also clean up the market for weed, because vendors wouldn't lace it with anything else. Government would also be able to tax it just as cigarettes (and I believe alcohol?) is taxed. And lets face it, if you're from the U.S. you know how much we could use extra tax money. Driving while under the influence of Marijuana is far safer than alcohol, however it is not completely safe. Through experience, smokers can become better drivers while under the influence. Also, marijuana smokers understand that they are high and tend to concentrate much more on the road because of it. Do you smoke? Occasionally (0-3 times per week) Just a few extra things.. Medical marijuana might be legal in 14 states, but I know for a fact that it is almost impossible to get in Rhode Island, whereas its basically given away in California.. the laws are very different and far stricter here in RI. Now I'm probably going to sound like I'm just bashing anyone who doesn't share my opinion, but George, Andrew and Randy seem to have a very distorted perception on Marijuana. As I've said, driving while under the influence is fairly safe, although not perfect. Of all illegal drugs, I do believe it is by far the least addictive. And sooooooooo many pot-smokers do not move up to harder drugs, however some do. And whose to say that alcohol couldn't be the "gateway" drug if it was illegal? No one ever thinks to make that argument. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 12:10 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 |
Exactly, a month before harvest EVERY single time, I stop smoking to reset my tolerance. It's in no way physically addictive. Mentally maybe because life's just so much better when your high, but not physically. And who said anything about giving it to kids? If legalized I would want it to be 21 + with proof of ID like alcohol or tobacco. And yes I'm aware kid's will still be able to obtain it somehow, but don't they already do? @Dieyou200 Thanks for that amazing post! Like I said that's exactly true, if you think your addicted to weed you have no self control. I can quit smoking at the drop of a dime. And do so every month even though I have an unlimited supply. And as for the gay marriage thing, I'm pretty sure it's going to be legalized because it's unconstitutional of it not to be. We have a lot of rebuilding to do, but we will. @Firelion08 Thanks for the reply @Sonixpber It's always nice to talk to people who have a good education on weed Thanks to everyone who has posted so far. Even if you are against it  -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 12:42 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Ex-Member Posts: 580 Member No.: 42 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Smoke weed every day. But kids, please listen to me don't chase the dragon -------------------- We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love. You plan the wars, you masters of men, plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun. Join Wg Late 2004 | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 01:17 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | How old are you? 16 Should marijuana be legalized? No. If so why, if not why not? As long as it's illegal, they can't tax you for it. It's expensive as it is. Fuck paying 17.5% more on weed. Do you smoke? Only weed. Mike and I have similar views on the subject, so I'll let his post do the talking. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 01:33 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | How old are you? 21 Should marijuana be legalized? Yes If so why, if not why not? First, before any accuses me of saying yes because I want to smoke weed, legal or not I will never smoke it anyway. Smoking, cigarettes or otherwise holds no appeal to me at all. However, it is fairly well known that Marijuana is allot less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, both of which are legal in most countries. Its also important to note that with legalization they can control more effectively any additives that may be in it (It's fairly heavily publicized that some dealers lace their drugs to get you hooked) and yes, they'll probably tax it too. Frankly Mickey, just because you want it to stay illegal to avoid paying tax on it is a selfish view, if you want to smoke it, like any other drug (cigarettes/alcohol) you should be paying a tax to offset the potential burden on other taxpayers who choose not to. Do you smoke? No, I like my lungs the way they are. --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 02:19 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gibble00 Group: Emeritus Posts: 775 Member No.: 100 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 9 | I am 19. Should it be legal? Maybe. Do I smoke? On the occasion. More so recently, like every other week, but usually not so much. It's just that some of the guys I live with smoke. My biggest problem with legalization is that I do believe it would dramatically increase the amount of marijuana use (being more readily available) and I think that it can have bad side effects. I think we'd see problems with people smoking and driving while blazed out of their minds. There's kinda the notion that weed has few bad side effects, but I'm not sure if I agree with that. To shorten up what I originally had written here, I get really really high sometimes, not that I'm trying to, it just affects me more than my friends. I dunno why, I guess I'm not used to it and I'm small (like 125 lbs) so everything like drinking and stuff effects me more. I drink a lot, I've done some pills, I've never done shrooms or acid or anything in that category, but to me, I feel like when smoking out the effects can be pretty severe. I can drink 12 or 13 drinks in a night and be fine compared to some bong hits of mid-grade weed. --------------------  | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 02:59 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | That because your tolerance is really low. But even if you do get extremely high, your still in the right mind to know you can't drive. Thanks for the post. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: May 1, 2010 03:07 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | How old are you? 21 Should marijuana be legalized? medical practice only If so why, if not why not? alot of money is gained from catching drug traffickers plus demand is sky-high. Do you smoke? nope --------------------  Goals 2011  | ||||||||
Marijuana Legalization, What do you think?