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Posted: June 10, 2010 04:26 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63    | Hi! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJjUt2sXo5o So you should have seen that film or at least the famous screen from that film:  So anyways, the thing is... My family (my cousins over in Canada...) have the rights to that film, so they get like a bunch of money from people using it every month or so... BUT!!!!! Those stupid Canadians never care to do anything.... They just sit around in their cabins up in the mountains somewhere... They don't even go to the copyright place or what ever to get their free money every month... AND NOW TO THE SUPER HUGE MATTER: That screen ^ from the bigfoot film was in the "new" batman movie "The Dark Knight" visable for like 3-4 seconds (in like minute 6 somewhere in the movie if you care to watch  )... And we haven't been payed by Warner Bros. for it... They haven't even contacted us. I only noticed it cuz I saw the movie myself and noticed the picture and looked it up, and it was actually from the movie my family has the rights to. ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/movieconnections )What should we do? I mean... "List of highest-grossing films: [#6 in the world] The Dark Knight Warner Bros. $1,001,921,825 - 2008 " Shouldn't we like get a lot of money for that? They can't just take the picture and use it in such a huge movie without contacting the owners... But the other thing is that there is no way to contact Warner Bros. or the executive producers of the batman the dark knight movie since they are too famous and stuff. No mail, no phone, at least that I could find. What should I do!? What would you have done? HALP!  --------------------  Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 04:31 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | hire a lawyer that specializes in this copyright infringement try to settle it out of court though --------------------  Goals 2011  | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 04:45 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112 | The fact that it's on youtube with 1.5 million views and no copyright claim has been made kind of pisses on everything you've just said. Owners of popular videos can revenue share and have advertisements placed on their videos. Youtubers get $1-2.50 per 1000 views depending on their popularity and if they have a partnership deal. It's been freely available on YouTube for over 3 years now. Also, if the makers of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191831/ acquired and paid for rights to use the footage by your cousin, they also have the right to give Warner Bros permission to use that footage for free. Either way, I'm pretty sure the biggest movie producing company in the world know their shit when it comes to copyright infringement. They have a whole team of legal professionals ensuring this doesn't happen. -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 05:09 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Exactly. What Steve said ^ They would have researched every possible route of being sued before using that or any other reference in a film. I don't think you have a case sadly, and paying for a lawyer to say the same thing would therefore probably not be worth it. --------------------    | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 05:23 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Fire Lion Sword Group: Emeritus Posts: 1189 Member No.: 103 Joined: January 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 3 | First of all, the title...? Punk using advertising methods...  Second, are your cousins trustworthy? I mean... they would try to, like, trick the world into believing that the creature depicted in the video is genuine? I NEED TO KNOW. On a more serious note: What Steve said. That video has been available on the internet for a while. If everything you said is true, Warner Bros. may be depending on some kind of royalty loophole; for I doubt they would ignore such an issue blatantly, unless they were prepared. I'm no expert on the matter, however, so I wouldn't take what I say too seriously. -------------------- --------- 獅の炎 ----------  ----------- 忍☯者 ----------- | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 06:00 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 | I love things like this. If I was you, I'd hire a lawyer and go all out for it. I have beef with Warner anyway - they're a bunch of assholes. I know a fair bit about the Freedom of Information and Data Protection acts, and my knowledge is that if the film is your property, they can't use it for entertainment/commercial and profit-based purposes like they are without 1- it classifying for Fair Use (which a film doesn't) or consent from the owner. Fuck em up please  --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 08:01 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | I think your full of shit. But w/e --------------------  | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 08:53 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | You vs multi billion corporation, good luck -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 09:51 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gibble00 Group: Emeritus Posts: 775 Member No.: 100 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 9 | I don't really understand how it being on youtube makes a difference because it could have been posted on youtube or another website for free without your permission and without the owners ever knowing about it. --------------------  | ||
Posted: June 10, 2010 10:17 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | There's a company out west that can get up to $10 grand every time a movie has the Happy Birthday Song in it. So yeah, go get 'em. --------------------  | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 04:45 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Gibble00 Group: Emeritus Posts: 775 Member No.: 100 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 9 |
Huh, that's funny because we were talking about copyrights and that song on another forum just like a week ago. About how it's not actually a public domain song and whatnot. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 09:35 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | people make mistakes. it might just have been a bad prop that went bad. in any case. a lawyer is the first option because a great lawyer will do their research. you'll be paying money up front but hey. it works. also make sure to settle out of court. i cannot begin to stress enough the significance of out of court settlements but make sure that the opposition knows you're going all the way -------------------- Goals 2011 | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 01:48 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 |
This ^ Like, I didn't really understand what Steve said? Because like, the film was filmed by my cousins' dad's friends (My cousins' dad was like the worlds only fulltime bigfoot hunter lol) in the 60s. He then bought the rights for the film and when he passed away the rights where given to his sons (my cousins), who are like 45 and 50 years old now. Why would someone putting the video up on YouTube without our permission do anything? I mean, my cousins still own the film, they even have the original and all the papers and stuff in some cabin of theirs... Since they haven't been contacted about Warner Bros. using the image from the bigfoot film I guess Warner Bros. must have missed out on that or something, I have got no idea myself. I'm not making this up or anything, I know my cousins very well in person and stuff. I'm not saying that the film is infact a film of some real bigfoot. I'm not even saying there is a bigfoot. Like this is all I know. They own the film and all the rights to it. People might have uploaded it illegaly online, but still, shouldn't they have the rights to it? Should we like contact YouTube as well and get that fixed as well since you say there is a lot of money to be maid there as well? Anyways, the lawyer thing seems a bit too much for some private persons against a big company like that. If I could, I would just like to call Warner Bros. or something and see what's going on... Wish it was that easy. -------------------- Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 07:52 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Gibble00 Group: Emeritus Posts: 775 Member No.: 100 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 9 | Isn't it easy to report a video for copyright infringement nowadays on youtube? I would go ahead and do that. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 08:35 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Dallar Group: Event Leader Posts: 1899 Member No.: 1957 Joined: July 16, 2009 Total Events Attended: 137 | O=o --------------------  Click me if you need cheering up - I guarantee happiness will blossom | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 09:56 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Also Zeth, big companies, like Warner Bros, won't get involved individually, so if you did ever acquire a number, which you will find nigh impossible, if there is any threat of legal consequences, they will involve their lawyers... and you'll find yourself up against a huge team of Harvard men anyway. So.... yeah.... if the info you provided above is correct, then you stand a chance, but it will cost you a shitload. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 11, 2010 11:32 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 |
Yeah I know right... It sucks... And all the info I've said is true. Why the hell would I lie about this? That would be totally random tbh... xD -------------------- Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||
Posted: June 12, 2010 08:34 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | No no, you misunderstood, i didn't say you weren't telling the truth dw  Just, if you do decide to go ahead, you have one hell of a big battle on your hands. -------------------- | ||
Bigfoot - real?!