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Posted: August 8, 2010 02:36 amTop
   


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Good drunken debate from a few nights ago.

The question: How many 5 year-olds could you take on at once?

The specifics:

- You are in an enclosed area, roughly the size of a football pitch. There are no foreign objects.
- You are not allowed to touch any walls.
- When you are knocked unconscious, you lose. When they are all knocked unconscious, they lose. Once a kid is knocked unconscious, that kid is "out."
- I (or someone else intent on seeing to it you fail) get to choose the kids from a pool that is twice the size of your magic number. The pool will be 50/50 in terms of gender and will have no discernable abnormalities in terms of demographics, other than they are all healthy children.
- The kids receive one day of training from hand-to-hand combat experts who will train them specifically to team up to take down one adult. You will receive one hour of "counter-tactics" training.
- There is no protective padding for any combatant other than a standard-issue cup for your balls.

* The kids are motivated enough to not get scared, regardless of the bloodshed. Even the very last one will give it his/her best to take you down.

I set my magic number at 25.

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Posted: August 8, 2010 02:53 amTop
   
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Saw topic title, knew instantly a Stokenut topic tongue.gif

Umm... magic number of... 15.

My brother is 4, so not far off, and at that height, they wouldn't be tall enough to inflict any blows to my head, making it VERY hard to knock me unconscious. As long as I stay on my feet, I'd be fine. 30, I think I could take on at once and stand a fighting chance. 40 would be pushing it, I'd be overwhelmed by sheer numbers and their training advantage.

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* The kids are motivated enough to not get scared, regardless of the bloodshed.


There are extremes one can go to. But I'd rather not think like that, in terms of 5 year olds dry.gif Maybe in a life or death situation.
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 02:57 amTop
   
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If you kicked every single one of them, i only see an end when you have to stop and eat. a kick to the neck, run - until the faster ones catch up - more kicks - run

yeah i've done this before
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 03:01 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Reticked @ August 08, 2010 03:57 am)
If you kicked every single one of them, i only see an end when you have to stop and eat. a kick to the neck, run - until the faster ones catch up - more kicks - run

yeah i've done this before

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You are in an enclosed area, roughly the size of a football pitch.


They'd find a way to corner you in.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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Posted: August 8, 2010 03:32 amTop
   
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If all of the kids came at me at the same time, I would expect about 15-20.
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 03:54 amTop
   
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Lol.
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 04:07 amTop
   
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Honestly from all the mob scences ive experienced and seen 50 fuckers coming at you at once wether there 5 or 90 years old doubt anyone could take more then 10 down simple fact is even though they cant reach your head the fuckers will tear at bite and rip at your legs until your ass is down and shear numbers 50 being a mob youd be overwhelmed and consumed fast as hell. MY MAGIC NUMBER 0
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 04:40 amTop
   
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QUOTE: WG_Keanu @ August 07, 2010 10:01 pm)
QUOTE: Reticked August 08, 2010 03:57 am
If you kicked every single one of them, i only see an end when you have to stop and eat. a kick to the neck, run - until the faster ones catch up - more kicks - run

yeah i've done this before

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You are in an enclosed area, roughly the size of a football pitch.


They'd find a way to corner you in.

even if they are trained in the arts n shit

they're 5 - basically retarded. they'll corner themselves. in a round area.
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 04:43 amTop
   
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A hell of a lot, seeing as I already know hand-to-hand combat skills courtesy of the United States Army.

This is kind of stupid. I mean 8, 9 or 10-year-olds would at least make it a little more interesting, but 5? They are practically babies. They are still developing motor skills, hand-eye coordination and cognitive abilities. You could try to teach 5-year-olds how to work together to take down a larger and stronger opponent, but these are the same kids that are learning the alphabet, how to count to 10, and the colors of the rainbow. There's no way they would even have the attention span to sit down and listen to someone instructing them in combat tactics. And sure, you say they will fight to the very last blah blah blah. I call bullshit. 5-year-olds break down and cry when they get a bee sting or cut their finger or skin their knee. How long do you think any of them will last in a real fight. After seeing their peers getting knocked the fuck out, they are going to run away. Simple as that. THEY ARE 5 FUCKING YEARS OLD.
 
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i can step on 5 yr olds and pick them up with one hand...probably like 50....
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 05:16 amTop
   
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Oh I know some rough 5 year olds.

If they surround you some of them are going to be able to grab you from one side and pull you down.

Depending on position it might take no more than 8.
 
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http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/
 
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They bite, pull hair, cry, whine and in general will kick your butt. You would be better off yelling "OMG, Look over there it's Barney." then run. lol
 
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I would say 50! screw them! they're 5 years old! pick one up and use him as a weapon!

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QUOTE: Mochacho456 @ August 08, 2010 01:00 am)
http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/

It says my magic number is 19.

I am a pretty good guesser. hash.pnghash.png
 
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Posted: August 8, 2010 01:35 pmTop
   
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hell 5 year olds are cute, who could hurt them? I would just stand still and ask for some hugs, so what if I lose/die its a win!
 
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The link that Moch posted says 25, which sounds reasonable, under the conditions.

However, simply knowing HTH tactics is different from being able to apply them effectively, under pressure. With that said, there's a steep physical contrast that would obviously be an advantage in most cases, although I'm not the strongest or biggest person around. The determining factor would likely be stamina.

I'm not what's generally perceived as a brawler, but I'm confident in my accuracy and speed as a striker. I'm also comfortable with my kicks, so, combined with the physical advantages as well as the tactical dynamics of kicking, I could possibly "takeout" one of them with each attack -- assuming they come in relatively low numbers at a time. My general combat effectiveness would probably be average, with a considerably high level of speed in physical ability.

... What's scary is that if I can resort to things like eye-gouging and biting, they could too. And I have a slight fear of being eaten alive by crazy, murderous 5-year-olds. Mental focus could be an issue.

Overall, most variable details taken into honest consideration, I believe I'd be able to take-on about 25 at the same time; over 70 one at a time.
 
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That link says I'd be able to take on 22 at a time, which I think is in the ballpark area.

I have read this before and I think some things were different. The room I think was described as smaller - a football pitch is quite large, and if you're only taking on about 20-25, you could theoretically run around so that the faster ones get nearer to you, and take them out.

It would be easy to take out each of them separately. I mean, you could give a couple hits to the temple (if you're really fucked up) or a few hits straight to the nose or jaw (if you're a little less fucked up). I think being cornered wouldn't be as bad as people think.

I mean, if they immediately resort eye-gouging and biting, then yeah, it would be a lot about pain tolerance. If they first try to utilize their training then if you get cornered, a you could practically just knock their heads together hard enough that they go under.

Toss in a few knees and some choke holds when you get a stray kid to conserve strength and energy.

The size of the area really does play a huge role. If it's a football pitch you might be able to pick a few up and run away and then knock them out alone. Or even just run through a mod of them and throw some elbows and knees to anyone around you such that you don't stop running and you inflect damage over time.

But I think 22-25 is my magic number.
 
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I got 26. They're 5 year olds btw, Colin makes sense.
 
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With 12 year's of martial art's training under my belt and a shit ton of ground fighting expertise I'm pretty sure I'd be able to take out at LEAST 35.
25 if those little bastards start biting my ankles.
 
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Moch's link says 26
 
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already got a plan, pick up the lingest one and start twirling bashing his head off every other little buggers lol sop magic number is about 90 lol
 
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