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Posted: September 11, 2010 12:50 pm  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286    | So I've been playing poker recently. Been doing small tournaments to see how I go. Sooo happy right now.  Called an all in pre-flop with 55. Guy turned over 66. Next hand went all in with massive short stack with KQ. Some guy turned over AA. Still massively happy though  --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 01:02 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | What's poker... I play goldfish. Grats though, you're turning into Stokenut  -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 01:05 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | Stoke #2 --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 02:15 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | I r disappoint -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 02:39 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | How many /sceptical George. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 02:59 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 |
Pretty sure "sceptical" is spelt with a "k" not a "c", as in skeptical. OT: You're cheating. You're Mr.Numbers, it's not fair to the other players. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 03:28 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mmangler Group: Emeritus Posts: 1595 Member No.: 1580 Joined: December 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 165 | Professional gambler realize that it all just goes back into the pot. Hours of play and at the end your net is hopefully slightly up but it could be massively down or slightly down. But hey have fun out there but try not to let it run your life. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 04:20 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Walk away with it dude. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 04:58 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | Winner winner chicken dinner! --------------------  The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011        | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 05:36 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Phantasmal Group: Clan Friend Posts: 47 Member No.: 2366 Joined: August 28, 2010 Total Events Attended: 11 | Grats you lucky guy, now share  --------------------  | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 08:04 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112 | Okay I guess it's time for me to step in and clear up the common misconceptions relating to poker, gambling and casino games. I'd expect Eugene to understand the concept of poker or to at least understand how good players are profitable over a decent sample size regardless of fluctuations of luck. I play poker professionally. It's my primary source of income and has been for about 6 months now. These are the numbers for July, August and the start of this month.  Poker isn't played against a casino, so the whole "Stop before you lose it all!" ideology is just uneducated and wrong. Yes there is luck involved. You can get your money in an 80% favourite and get unlucky, but over time, if you get your money in a favourite more often than an underdog you'll show a profit. All you have to be able to do to accomplish this is to make better decisions than the people you're playing against. The "house" makes it's money in rake. Let's say you play a $100 cash game pot - the house will take $1 out of it and the winner takes the rest. In a tournament situation, as you can see in Gary's screen-shot, a $2 tournament costs $2.20. The house takes the 20 cents. The rest is played for by the players. Poker is a game where 2-10 players play their hands against each other, making bets and taking calculated risks based on the strength of their own hand versus the expected strength of their opponents hand in any given situation. Every hand a good player calculates and takes into consideration the following before making a decision in a poker tournament. -How big is your stack? -How big if your opponents stack? -What position are you in? (Who acts first after each betting round?) -What are the blinds? How many big blinds do you have and how many does the average stack have? -How many players get paid? How far away are we from being ITM? -What is my pot equity? -What are the pot odds? -What are the implied odds? -What information do I already have on this player? How does he play certain hands? WG has already shown me 3 examples in this topic of uneducated assumptions that I'd expect from a 50 year old woman that buys scratch cards. You fall into the category of this person...
I've explained this in the most basic way I can. If you'd like me to elaborate or get technical I can go on to explain the more advanced concepts that ultimately turn marginal players into winning players, such as calculating pot odds, expected value (both positive and negative), implied odds, tilt, shove/fold equity, ranges based on position and so on. But what pisses me off most is simpletons jumping to conclusions and putting poker (especially tournament poker, which is what I play) in the same category as Blackjack or Roulette. I can't stand when people who think they know what they're talking about make comments like "Walk away with it", "But how much did you lose to win that??" and "You'll lose it all". -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 08:12 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112 | Oh, and good job Gary. Just don't move up in stakes too quickly. I personally don't play tournaments over $10. This helps combat variance because it's not uncommon to go for a couple dozen tournaments without even cashing. Try to keep your bankroll at above 100 buy-ins for the level you're playing at and work up slowly. -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||||
Posted: September 11, 2010 09:45 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | Lol Steve, that is a pretty epic post. Like you, one of my mates has made a living off poker for a few months before & I do play a few sites when I feel like it. I think the most important thing people need to keep i mind about poker is just because the cards you are dealt are 'luck', the way you play them is not. If someone asked me some of those questions above I would punch them in the face lol --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||
Posted: September 12, 2010 02:42 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | Another small win. Went all in with A5 against 9-10 in heads up. Better mathematical chance of winning but got outdrawn.  -------------------- "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~ | ||||
Posted: September 12, 2010 02:56 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | Yea, there is no 'House always wins' with poker. Played in abit for about a year, nearly won an Aussie Millions seat. Prefer in person stuff though, not online. I play off peoples tells/looks. -------------------- This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: September 12, 2010 08:16 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 |
British spelling is sceptical. OT: Nice work Maths, I didn't really know people lived their lives off poker =O, good way to sit at home & make money. I'm scared I'll get addicted if I try it. --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
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