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Posted: March 8, 2011 06:34 amTop
   
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I neeeeeeeeeeeeed this power cable for my setup. It would make all the difference.

http://www.audiophilia.com/wp/?p=5195
 
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Posted: March 8, 2011 08:34 amTop
   
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$1695 for a 6ft power cord

umm.......
 
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Posted: March 8, 2011 08:50 amTop
   
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no thank you. seems like a waste
 
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Posted: March 8, 2011 09:41 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson @ March 08, 2011 09:34 pm)
$1695 for a 6ft power cord

umm.......

Yup, the point of this is.....

It's for idiots who deserve to be parted with their cash lol. Unless you want to run it as the cabling within your walls as well? rolleyes.gif
 
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Posted: March 8, 2011 01:35 pmTop
   
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I wish to wire my entire house with this.
 
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Posted: March 9, 2011 06:13 amTop
   
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This is an example of electrical engineers who have turned their backs on society and have decided to scam those who are stupid and rich enough to afford it.

This power cable was the most extreme thing I've ever found. The usual case is the "super shielded ultra high amazing sounding" cables to connect your devices even though the signal is digital. Coffee HDMI is an example of such a cable even more ridiculous than the Monster brand.
 
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Posted: March 9, 2011 08:11 amTop
   
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Ah, yes. The old "trick the idiot 'audioophile'". But hey, it makes money and isn't /technically/ illegal. tongue.gif

Speaking of which, http://www.dansdata.com/gz033.htm
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For those of you who are curious, here's some information:
1. Power cables will have absolutely no effect on the end product - Either it's good enough to work, or it's not(i.e. if the cord's so thin that it -melts- under the load, yea... it probably won't work). Also, all modern devices are -very- good at isolating any input power noise from the rest of the box, even the cheapest Chinese power supplies.

2. Digital cables are the same way - Either they work or they don't(Note 1).

3. Analog cables, like for audio... Most anything will do. You -do- want to use coax cables, but the cheapest ones will probably do fine. Just -try- not to run your audio cable right next to a power cable for several feet, or you might hear a 60hz hum through it.

4. If you're using your computer for an audio source, you are probably going to want to use HDMI or S/pdif(digital out) to a proper DAC/converter box - Motherboard-based sound cards are pretty darn horrible, though they have gotten better these days. Also, if you manage to find a set of decent speakers with a digital(s/pdif) input, they will probably sound "better" than analog input ones - The built in DAC more than likely has a built-in equalizer that's set to the speakers' own frequency distortion pattern.

5. A 128kbps MP3 will sound as good as any CD, and far better than a record... IF it was recorded correctly(See the "loudness war" on wikipedia) - If not, it may very well be horribly distorted, something that even the best speakers won't fix.

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As a slight exception to this rule, you may occasionally find a "borderline" digital system that doesn't work quite right some of the time - I once has a -very- cheap DVI cable running from my mom's PC to her second monitor. The picture looked "noisy", which shouldn't have been happening. I moved the cable about 6 inches, away from some power cables... and the problem cleared up right away.
Of course, a decent cable(You know, the $20 kind, not the $3-off-ebay kind) wouldn't have the problem in the first place - My DVI-D cable runs along a power cable for about three feet without -any- distortion or loss of fidelity, at 120fps.
 
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Posted: March 10, 2011 04:24 amTop
   
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5. A 128kbps MP3 will sound as good as any CD, and far better than a record... IF it was recorded correctly(See the "loudness war" on wikipedia) - If not, it may very well be horribly distorted, something that even the best speakers won't fix.

128kbps MP3 is horrible. But yes, if the recording on the CD or whatever media the original was placed on was recorded poorly, it will never sound good.

HOWEVER. If you listen to the release of the Beatles discography in their 24bit FLAC, you will be amazed (only if you have a decent set of headphones or speakers). This release is better than CD quality. It was released by the studio on a USB stick and for $300 you could legitimately buy it.

Although I do agree, for the most part Mp3 is good enough for most of the time. But if you're really into the details, 16bit FLAC is the way to go if it's properly ripped from the CD.
 
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Posted: March 10, 2011 05:10 amTop
   
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Nah, I think you can make a 128kbps mp3 sound pretty -darn- good by properly authoring it. Most of the time, though, a 192kbps mp3 or so is easier to make sound good, but if you set the levels properly, 128kbps will do.
See http://mp3ornot.com/index.php - Come back with your results. tongue.gif

(Note, of course, that I'll probably keep things as 320kbps for archival purposes, but if 128kbps will do fine for everything else...)
 
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Posted: March 10, 2011 05:33 amTop
   
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Nah, I think you can make a 128kbps mp3 sound pretty -darn- good by properly authoring it. Most of the time, though, a 192kbps mp3 or so is easier to make sound good, but if you set the levels properly, 128kbps will do.
See http://mp3ornot.com/index.php - Come back with your results. tongue.gif

Got it. Lucky guess probably but that's not a very good song to judge by. It's not busy enough for the MP3 encoder, or a broad enough sound range in my opinion for that to be a fair test. And besides, mp3 is mp3. Lossy to lossless is different matter.

The mp3 encoder has a really tough time with rock music. Rock music has a very broad range of frequencies and the MP3 encoder doesn't like that. The encoder focuses more on the midrange sounds than the highs and the lows as this is where the majority of your sound is. This causes the higher frequencies to get clipped and the lows have to be boosted.

I have MP3 rips of CD's and I can hear distortion on them that I know is not on the CD because I own the disc and it's not there when I play it back off the disc. Granted, the music has to be fairly loud to hear the distortion but it's definitely there.

MP3 is decent for its time but the world is ready for lossless codecs. If you want to hear things you have never heard before from a CD FLAC is the way to go.


 
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not sure about speakers tho, don't really have any good ones anymore
 
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Posted: March 10, 2011 07:03 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Georgio9 March 09, 2011 09:33 pm
       
QUOTE: RobbieThe1st  March 10, 2011 05:10 am
Nah, I think you can make a 128kbps mp3 sound pretty -darn- good by properly authoring it. Most of the time, though, a 192kbps mp3 or so is easier to make sound good, but if you set the levels properly, 128kbps will do.
See http://mp3ornot.com/index.php - Come back with your results. tongue.gif

Got it. Lucky guess probably but that's not a very good song to judge by. It's not busy enough for the MP3 encoder, or a broad enough sound range in my opinion for that to be a fair test. And besides, mp3 is mp3. Lossy to lossless is different matter.

The mp3 encoder has a really tough time with rock music. Rock music has a very broad range of frequencies and the MP3 encoder doesn't like that. The encoder focuses more on the midrange sounds than the highs and the lows as this is where the majority of your sound is. This causes the higher frequencies to get clipped and the lows have to be boosted.

Erm, how many did you try? You've got to do at least 10-20 samples(there's three songs on rotation, too) to get any data.. And then link the pic!


QUOTE: Georgio9 March 09, 2011 09:33 pm

I have MP3 rips of CD's and I can hear distortion on them that I know is not on the CD because I own the disc and it's not there when I play it back off the disc. Granted, the music has to be fairly loud to hear the distortion but it's definitely there.

I suspect that's a matter of "poor mastering" than anything else - Did you de-amplifiy it before, allowed for a few DB headroom? Are you using the best mp3 encoder around?
 
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