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Posted: May 4, 2011 10:11 am  | |||||||
      IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109    | Read this from an objective view. Due to the alleged death of Osama Bin Laden I have decided that it is time I showed WG a view on 9/11 that not many of you may have looked at it from. It is a short documentary on 9/11, many interesting facts and many interesting theories are brought up in it. Just give it a go, allow yourself to get both sides of the story, and no, the other side is not an extremist arabic view, it is a view of quite a few american's. http://www.truththeory.org/loose-change-91...-american-coup/ This is a completely objective thread. If you want to flame me, please kindly do it in a PM. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 10:18 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Raging_Mage2 Group: Guardian Posts: 749 Member No.: 2588 Joined: February 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 42 | Wish I could watch but can't DL while at TAFE  hopefully its still up when I get home ( still an active thread, or i'll forget about it haha --------------------  #1 In Heaven's Slayer Challenge ## Originally WG since 16/05/06   v -Click below for Goals & Achievement Thread- v  | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 10:21 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 |
The movie has been up since 2007. I will bump it every now and then. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 10:26 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Raging_Mage2 Group: Guardian Posts: 749 Member No.: 2588 Joined: February 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 42 | I've watched all 3 Zietgiest movies and Communism: A love story, so wwill look forward to this one -------------------- #1 In Heaven's Slayer Challenge ## Originally WG since 16/05/06 v -Click below for Goals & Achievement Thread- v | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 11:08 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: ZurvivorMan Group: Emeritus Posts: 1098 Member No.: 1528 Joined: December 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 99 | Very interesting. But i doubt that they used (drone airplanes?) to crash into the Twin Towers. But what i do believe in is that they organized it so that Osama could take the blame and get money for it. I also do believe that they planted bombs in the Twin Towers before the planes went into it, you can actually see it on tape that it blows up before the planes goes into it. + Its kinda weird that they didn't find any plane parts after one plane crashed into the Pantagon. They also said the plane went to the ground sliding before it crashed, yet there's no evidence for that. Btw did they find any plane parts of the TT plane? I smell something fishy abouy 9/11 -------------------- You don't have to feel like a waste of space You're original, cannot be replaced If you only knew what the future holds After a hurricane comes a rainbow Maybe you're reason why all the doors are closed So you can open one that leads you to the perfect road  | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 01:07 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Tumpelo Group: Clan Friend Posts: 189 Member No.: 1347 Joined: September 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 13 | Seen parts of it before but sat down and watched it all today. Very persuasive. Could a similar documentary be made containing all of the evidence for this not being an 'inside job' though? I'm pretty sure it could. Very interesting though yea. I'm pretty convinced that explosives were planted in the building, the question is who planted them there? The government or the terrorists? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 01:27 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | conspiracy rabble rabble rabble. i personally don't see how anyone could be involved in something as... 'no-honor' as blowing up the twin towers knowing that it would kill thousands of innocent people from their own country. You could have an orange, and I could tell you its an apple, and give you facts about how it could be an apple. It doesn't make it an apple. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 02:37 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: ZurvivorMan Group: Emeritus Posts: 1098 Member No.: 1528 Joined: December 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 99 |
You'd be suprise how many people that would kill for world power, money etc. Hitler tried but failed. Today they've just found a 'new' way doing it. The evidence show it was inside job. Tbh it really comes down to what you wanna believe in. -------------------- You don't have to feel like a waste of space You're original, cannot be replaced If you only knew what the future holds After a hurricane comes a rainbow Maybe you're reason why all the doors are closed So you can open one that leads you to the perfect road | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 03:40 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 | There's a fuckload of evidence for it. This, Zeitgeist... The question I have is, why did they leave such a fucking huge paper trail? --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 05:09 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Ex-Member Posts: 580 Member No.: 42 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Disgusting that people actually believe this treasonous rubble. What happened on Sept 11th 2001? An evil religious nutjob named Osama Bin Laden and his cronies attacked America. Nothing more. This movie has been busted by scientists, physicists, engineers and demolition experts ever since it came out. Choose reason, not conspiracy insanity. -------------------- We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love. You plan the wars, you masters of men, plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun. Join Wg Late 2004 | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 05:19 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 |
Really? Do share. Do share how the hotspots they mentioned were 500 degrees hotter than jet fuel burns. Do share why there was not ONE mention of WTC7 in the 9/11 commission. And do share why Operation Endgame* and Patriot act stripped away every US citizen's constitutional rights. I await answers. * Did you even know about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Endgame -------------------- [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 06:03 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Haters gonna hate, conspire-res gonna conspire. Just like the levees in New Orleans was the government, Obama's not a US citizen, blah blah. Next. --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 06:04 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Ex-Member Posts: 580 Member No.: 42 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 |
1. Jet fuel is an ignition source, and heated the steel enough to lose 50% of it's strength, this was due to the fire retardant being knocked off from the blow of the planes. The 500+ degree difference is due to SHIT INSIDE THE TOWER BEING FLAMMABLE. This doesn't take genius. 2. It had it's own report http://wtc.nist.go/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%2...pse%20Final.pdf 3. Whats wrong with deporting illegal immigrants and suspected terrorists? Rights in the constitution can be wiped in times of dire need. -------------------- We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love. You plan the wars, you masters of men, plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun. Join Wg Late 2004 | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 07:09 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | Yeah, what Moch said. Every conspiracy theory about this subject has been debunked a thousand times over by scientists, engineers and think-tanks across the world. If you are going to research something, be sure to research BOTH sides before drawing a conclusion. --------------------   Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 08:06 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/zeitgeist/ That is just one person who has challenged the movie. There are 3 sides to every story. Who knows? Maybe terrorists could have planted bombs inside the building? When I watched the Zeitgeist movies, I noticed that he is extremely persuasive in the way he presents his material. Even though he might have documentation, the meanings of quotes can be heavily changed when taken out of their original context. --------------------      | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 11:11 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 127 Member No.: 2612 Joined: February 23, 2011 Total Events Attended: 31 | Read Down. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 11:25 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 |
i fucking love you -------------------- This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 11:28 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Are there any non-Americans that actually believe the main story and not the conspiracies? Seems like everyone's so quick to say we're brainwashed/our government is a bunch of liars. Just saying. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: May 4, 2011 11:33 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 |
hi there! -------------------- This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||
Posted: May 5, 2011 12:21 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 |
1. Even jet fuel + flammable shit can't liquidize x amount of steel and concrete fast enough for the towers to collapse at freefall speed. Explain the explosions. Explain how this support beam: http://conspireality.files.wordpress.com/2...9/cut-beam1.jpg Looks exactly like how a support beam would be cut in a controlled demolition. 2. Link is broken 3 Nothing wrong with it. Except when you think about what the Patriot Act actually does. The US government can now arrest anyone, detain them for unlimited time without cause, deny all their rights including fair trial, and even ultimately torture them... and all this can be done by them being under SUSPICION that you are a terrorist. Sounds like Bush was just implimenting "Talk shit, get hit." -------------------- [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||||
Posted: May 5, 2011 04:00 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 | Mochacho456 and Colin warrior - there is a line between being a patriot and being ignorant. Keanu this is the link for WTC7: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%...pse%20Final.pdf It appears all of you who are against this theory didn't watch the video. Did you miss the 3.2billion dollar pay out you Ex-Presidents cousin got after buying the WTC's just 6 weeks before? Or the almost 800million missing from under the WTC (200million was found in an unmanned truck). If you also watched the video you can also see that many lead scientists in their field have stated that it was impossible for the towers to have fallen from short duration of heat that the tower was exposed too. "Why couldn't the terrorists have done the 'explosions'?" Oh yes, How silly, they paid for the extra security, the 12 hour security shifts, the drilling crews and everything, planted large amounts of explosives, clearly cut the support beams in an identical fashion as a planned demolition all without any one important noticing? Sure. You have yet to defend Flight 93, the pentagon or World trade centre 7, but do feel free to try, enlighten me in your knowledge. Randy: Don't be blinded by your ignorance. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||||
Posted: May 5, 2011 08:34 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 127 Member No.: 2612 Joined: February 23, 2011 Total Events Attended: 31 | 100 -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: May 5, 2011 09:22 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 127 Member No.: 2612 Joined: February 23, 2011 Total Events Attended: 31 | My points wernt to offend anyone, but i dont want my shit to come across like its attacking someones views or whatever so im removing it. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: May 5, 2011 09:32 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Raging_Mage2 Group: Guardian Posts: 749 Member No.: 2588 Joined: February 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 42 | The trade towers never fell, that's a conspiracy bro, to get Americans mad -------------------- #1 In Heaven's Slayer Challenge ## Originally WG since 16/05/06 v -Click below for Goals & Achievement Thread- v | ||||||
Posted: May 5, 2011 09:36 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 127 Member No.: 2612 Joined: February 23, 2011 Total Events Attended: 31 |
Tbh man, i try to keep the tower incident as maintained within my mind as possible. Like rather than looking at it as an attack or a conspiracy, or whatever. Its like people were killed and its a day to Mourn those deaths. Im a man of WAR@ -------------------- | ||||||
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