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Posted: June 15, 2008 04:49 amTop
   
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I have now given up on editing up DT's slayer guide to suit modern slayer, so over the next few weeks I am buliding a new guide to cater for modern slayer.

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To begin gaining slayer points you must complete the quest: Smoking kills

Slayer points are given out for every task completed at every slayer master apart from the Burthorpe master.

You must do Four consecutive slayer tasks, without burthorping any, before you may begin gaining any slayer points (I highly reccomend that you use Mazchna/Canafis for these four). Your Fifth slayer task in a row gives you your first set of points.

Master's give out points at the rate of:

Burthorpe - NO POINTS, resets your task count to 0
Canafis - 1 point
Edgeville - 4 Points
Lost City - 10 Points
Pollinveach - 12 points
Shilo - 15 points

I have heard mixed points about the Pollinveach master, apparently she does assign less of the "Bad" tasks, however shilo does give significantly better points when you look at it over the long term.

The 3 point difference between shilo an poll masters seems insignficant untill you being looking at how the "Bonus Points" work.

The bonus point forumla:

10 tasks completed:

<master> x 4 + Task points
ie. Shilo is: (15 x 4) + 15 = 75

You get this bonus for EVERY 10 tasks finished, so you will receive a bonus 60 points on top of the regular 15 for your 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th task.... etc.

50 Tasks completed:

<master> x 10 + 10 task bonus + Task points
ie. Shilo is: (15 x 10) + (4 x 15) +15 = 225

This shows how massive the points get when you are getting 50 tasks in a row, by the time you have completed 50 consecutive tasks you should have got 46 point earning tasks, five 10 task bonuses and the 50 task bonus.

For shilo at 50 tasks you should have earnt:

46 x 15 = 690 points
60 x 5 = 300 points
1 x 150 = 150 pointa

Bringing your total to 1140 points. Compare this to the Poll Master:

46 x 12 = 552
48 x 5 = 240
1 x 120 = 120

Gaining you 912 points, loosing a total of 238 points compared to shilo (Or 2 permanently canceled tasks to put it in perspective).

I have heard unconfirmed rumors that your ten task bonus depends entirely upon what master you use for the 10th task, not what master you use for the majority of your task, so if you wished to do most tasks at Poll then get every 10th at Shilo this will award you a larger bonus.

This is unconfirmed.


Now what to spend these points on?

This really depends on personal preference, but this is basically how I would suggest you spend your points:

Priority items:

Slayer Helmet (Learn)- This helm incorpirates ALL slayer headwear which will give you a huge advantage on those tasks you used to to have to wear Face masks/nose-peg's etc.

Cancel Tasks - ALWAYS keep 100 spare points, I know when you get enough points for something you just want to go out and blow all your points on it but this is a really bad idea. I went and spent all my points on a slayer helmet immediately, then regretted it as my next task was Skeletal Wvyrens.... something I would love to never have again.

Slayer Ring (Learn) - These last 8 teleports to: Slayer tower, Slayer Dungeon, Pollinveach and Tairns Lair. I can gaurantee you will rapidly chew your way through these rings, as they act in the same way as a dueling ring and crumble once all 8 charges are used.

DO NOT buy

Slayer Ring - A massive waste of points, in effect you could buy four or learn to make them. Since these crumble after 8 uses you will get 24 uses when you could have an unlimited supply of them.

Experience - It costs 400 points, which is allot, for what realistically is only 1 hours work. If you are using Shilo 400 points will take a good 3 days minimum to collect so it seems like a massive waste to spend them all on a mediocre amount of XP.

Otherwise the rest of the items are merely mediocre rewards. I suggest if you have nothing to spend your points on go for some slayer dart runes, as for 350 points you get 950k ish runes (2.5k Deaths and 10k Mind runes as 35 points buys 250 casts) smile.gif
 
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This section of the guide will give a general overview of each master and what their main uses are. For the most part people in WG should aim to be using either Summona or Duradel 99% of the time, however if you do not have enough slayer points or have not done the quest "Smoking Kills" you may need to use the other master's sometimes.

These are only short overviews, I will go into detail about the main two master's later in this guide.

So to start off:

Turael

Location: Burthorpe, Games room teleport then head east

Turael is the lowest slayer master, with no requirements at all. The main reason you will ever visit Turael is to swap out a task that is too hard if you do not have enough slayer points to cancel that task, or because you have not done the quest.

Note: Turael does not assign more than 50 of anything as a task, so any task you get off him will be dispatched easily. All of his tasks are easy, however some (such as monkey's) have harder alternatives if you wish to get more XP.

Mazchna

Location: Canafis, either use a house portal or slayer ring to get to Canafis then follow the path heading north east.

The main use of the canafis master is for slayers who wish to quickly get their first 4 tasks done when starting off with slayer points, as he is the easiest master you can use yet still have them count towards your total task count.

Note: Most of Mazchna's tasks require you to kill 40-70 monster's, you receive 1 point per task completed

Vannaka

Location: Edgeville Dungeon, Climb down the ladder at Edgeville then head as far south as possible, then follow the tunnel untill you pass the Wilderness gate.

This is the lowest level slayer master you should really be using frequently if you do not have the slayer level requirements for some of the other slayer masters. Vannaka is a decent slayer master because he has a good variety of easy tasks that provide a decent amount of XP, as well as being very easy to get to.

Note: Vannaka can assign over 100 Blue Dragons at a time while he can only assign up to 60 green dragons at once. He can assign so many blue dragons because you may kill baby blue dragons in place of blue dragons, there is no option for this with Green's.

Chaeldar

Location: Directly south of the entrance fairy ring in Zanaris (The Lost City

I do not reccomend using chaeldar to train slayer for these reasons:

-Too far away from the normal teleport locations.
-Has a large variety of crap tasks such as cave bugs/slimes/crawlers that are barely balenced out by her few good assignments.
-Is well known to assign a large amount of dragons which arent very good XP wise (if you aren't able to use duradel this is a bad thing)

Summona

Location: Pollinveach, use your slayer ring to get here or Carpet from the pass. Alternatively you can locate your house almost right next door to her spot.
Slayer Level Required: Over 50 slayer

Summona is said to be the best slayer master for speed of XP gains these days as she supplies a large list of fast, High XP gain tasks while having a smaller list of slow/hard tasks.

If your main aim is to gain the most XP then summona will probably give you a greater long term XP/hour than Duradel, however she does miss out on some of the good dropping tasks that Duradel assigns such as Steel/Black Dragons and Dark Beasts.

If you are aiming to gain XP, fast the summona is the one to go for.

Duradel

Location Shilo, on top of the fishing building, climb up the ladder on the bank side of the river.
Slayer Level Required: Over level 50 slayer

This is where the big slayer money is at, almost all of Duradel's tasks having the potential to give you large amounts of loot, as well as a wide variety of good XP tasks.

Though Summona does provide faster XP she misses out on several of the most profitable tasks that you will be assigned, as well as assigning less of each monster (she gives approx 15-20 less per task than Duradel). Duradel also has very few tasks you would want to permanently cancel, though I will go into further detail on this below.

Note: Most of Duradel's tasks are assigned with an amount between 130-200, however his harder tasks such as metal dragons are assigned between 60-90.
 
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Posted: July 7, 2008 01:17 pmTop
   
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Requirements

-Greater than 35 slayer
-Over level 85 combat
-"Smoking Kills" quest complete

Location

Summon is located in the desert city of Pollinveach, which is also the location of the newest slayer dungeon.

-Map-

There is 3 easy ways to reach Summona, the easiest of these being to use a slayer ring (gained through the slayer points system) to teleport directly into her house. The other 2 options to get to her quickly is to locate your house in Pollinveach and hence just use home teleport to get there as the house teleport is very close (Blue route on map).

The last option, which I do not reccomend is to use a Glory teleport to get to Al Karid and Walk/carpet down to Pollinveach. This method is much slower, if you walk you will need to have a waterskin, and if you carpet you will quickly spend more on the carpet rides than m,oving your house costs.

Reccomended method: Slayer ring

Summona's Best tasks

As outlined above Summona is the best slayer master to visit if you wish to gain a large amount of XP per hour, as a result her 'best' tasks are those that provide allot of fast XP.

These all provide decent XP per hour:

-Abbysal Demons
-Black Demons
-Bloodvelds
-Dagganoths
-Dust Devils (With slayer helmet)
-Gargoyles
-Hellhounds
-Kalphites
-Nechryael
-Spiritual Mages
-Terror Dogs (With slayer ring to get to Tairn's Lair)

Some of those tasks will be made much faster with the addition of a cannon, particularily Kalphite (I generally go for soldiers) and Dagganoth, which both have the potential for 25k+ slayer XP an hour.

Summona's Worst Tasks

Summona has very few really bad tasks, however I advise permanently cancelling:

-Warped Tortoises
Slow XP

-Cave Horrors
Horrible place to get to, and they are also widely spread within the cave network so they are not efficient training. Black mask is an extremely infrequent drop so you will not make money.

And these tasks could also be worth cancelling depending on some conditions:

-Kurask/Turoth:
Hopelessly slow/expensive if you do not have the leaf bladed sword.

-Red Dragons
Fairly far away from a bank, but they do drop fairly well. If you feel that the task is too hard to complete there is the option of killing baby red dragons alternatively

-Iron Dragons
Not very good XP wise, but there is always the chance of a good drop

-Elves
Can be extremely annoying to get to if you have not done Regicide, so I would suggest perm cancelling them if you have only done Underground pass. Apparently they are good to range.

The rest of her tasks are fine XP/Drop wise.

Slayer Point Information

Points per Task - 12
Points per 10 Tasks - 168
Points per 50 Tasks - 960
 
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Great guide!
Going great so far, You speak in a way that makes me want to read, read read!

However, i do suggest you delete all posts and reserve a few so all of your posts are neatly bunched together

Cant wait to see the finished product
 
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QUOTE (Theevildead2 @ July 07, 2008 01:17 pm)
-Scarabite minions
I have never had these but they are horrendous XP and being located beneath Sonaphem they take a while to get to

jsut a correction, these guys are one of the best tasks actually. There's an area near the agility pyramid (that huge red rock) with a few of them. Theyre actually quite comparable to daganoths exp wise.
 
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Posted: July 10, 2008 11:36 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Tezza Rulz12 @ July 08, 2008 06:28 pm)
Great guide!
Going great so far, You speak in a way that makes me want to read, read read!

However, i do suggest you delete all posts and reserve a few so all of your posts are neatly bunched together

Cant wait to see the finished product

i will be re-posting once complete with a menu etc. smile.gif
 
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Posted: July 10, 2008 11:36 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (chip54321 @ July 09, 2008 03:02 am)
QUOTE (Theevildead2 @ July 07, 2008 01:17 pm)
-Scarabite minions
I have never had these but they are horrendous XP and being located beneath Sonaphem they take a while to get to

jsut a correction, these guys are one of the best tasks actually. There's an area near the agility pyramid (that huge red rock) with a few of them. Theyre actually quite comparable to daganoths exp wise.

thanks chip, will do.
 
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For Dagannoths: Many people who hybrid at Dag Kings love these tasks, as you can kill them for the task requirement. Hybrids benefit from using the mask there. I mage, so I don't wear the mask, but the increased slayer exp that you get compared to the little ones is excellent.
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Note: Most of Duradel's tasks are assigned with an amount between 130-200, however his harder tasks such as metal dragons are assigned between 60-90.

I've gotten tasks of 39 Iron dragons before, probably cause I am a lower cmb lvl. This was before I reached 100 f2p, and the summon does count for you to go use Duradel. It depends on your p2p cmb lvl.
 
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QUOTE (Winddancir @ July 13, 2008 11:33 am)
For Dagannoths: Many people who hybrid at Dag Kings love these tasks, as you can kill them for the task requirement. Hybrids benefit from using the mask there. I mage, so I don't wear the mask, but the increased slayer exp that you get compared to the little ones is excellent.
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Note: Most of Duradel's tasks are assigned with an amount between 130-200, however his harder tasks such as metal dragons are assigned between 60-90.

I've gotten tasks of 39 Iron dragons before, probably cause I am a lower cmb lvl. This was before I reached 100 f2p, and the summon does count for you to go use Duradel. It depends on your p2p cmb lvl.

Duradel's task amount's changed after the slayer update, he assigns 60-90 of iron's, steels and black dragons.

I will be going over alternatives to killing the actual assigned monsters later in the guide (including tasks such as dag's, blue drags, kalphite).

~Evil
 
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Really nice guide there mr biggrin.gif
I will have slayer as my goal after I get 99 herblore smile.gif
 
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Requirements

-Greater than level 50 Slayer
-Over level 100 Combat
-"Shilo village" Quest complete

Location

Duradel is located in the the deep south of the Karajama Jungle, in the small village of shilo. There is a variety of ways to reach this master:

Map coming

The best of the 2 main methods to get to Duradel is to use the teleportation ability of the Karajama level 3 gloves which sends you to a gem rock mine in shilo so is a very easy/direct way to get there, however this means you must have completed the Had karajama acheivement diary.

An easier method, and the method I use, is to Teleport to Ardougne, take a ship to Brimhaven then cart south to Shilo. Though this is marginally slower than karajama gloves, almost everyone can use this method.

Tip: If you forget/dont have any coins there is also a handy selection of guards and knights in the Ardy square to get the required 40gp from for the ship/cart.

If you cannot use either of the above methods to get to Duradel I would not reccomend using him as your slayer master as walking there is counterproductive.

Duradel's Best Tasks

It has been fairly widely debated whether Summona or Duradel has the better list of tasks that they assign. It is my personal preference to go to duradel normally as I like that he, for the most part assign's a good mix of high drop rate and high XP tasks.

These I find are good tasks for those seeking money:

-Spiritual Mages
-Abbysal Demons
-Iron/steel Dragons
-Nechryael
-Gargoyles
-Abberant Spectres

Tasks in italics are also good Xp, along with:

-Hellhounds
-Kalphites
-Dagganoths
-Dust Devils
-Bloodvelds
-Black Demons
-Fire giants

As with Summona some of these tasks will be made significantly faster with the use of a cannon. Please do note however that all of the tasks that I consider good money wise are located in area's where you either cannot set a cannon up, or are not practical to use a cannon with.

Tip's:

Dust devils - Kill them in the chaos tunnels as there is a large group in one room together
Nechryael - Another task that can be done in the chaos tunnel, however you must pass through dragon rooms to get there and it generally is faster to go to slayer tower.


Duradel's Worst tasks

Duradel does have a small amount of bad tasks, consisting of:

-Mithril Dragons
Yes they do give you the chance of some epic drops including DFH, however they are in a dungeon in the middle of nowhere and by the time you get geared up and get there you could have done a much better task. Only ever assigned 4-8 hence its hardly worth it.

-Skeletal Wyverns - Cancel first.
By far the worst possible slayer assignment. There is only one decent way to kill these, which is to range them but even then expect to consume a large amount of food. I used over 100 Monkfish in a task of 60 of these, and I did use a bunyip. Not worth the minute chance of a visage drop.

-Suqahs
On lunar isle, too far out of the way to be efficient unless you train slayer on lunar.

-Warper terrorbirds
Similar to tortises, slow XP

Obviously there are other bad tasks XP and money wise which he assigns, however these 4 should be perm cancelled whether you want money or fast XP.

As you can see Duradel actually has a much smaller variety of 'Bad' tasks than it initially appears, and with his larger tasks and better high drop value assignments I do find him to be a better master.

Slayer Point Information

Points per tasks - 15
Points per 10 tasks - 210
Points per 50 tasks - 1140
 
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Evil, save yourself a bit of work, and copy AMJ rolleyes.gif

http://www.zybez.net/community/index.php?s...76696&hl=slayer

I know, its AMJ, but its a great guide. hash.png
 
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QUOTE (Mangomaniac2 @ July 19, 2008 11:29 pm)
Evil, save yourself a bit of work, and copy AMJ rolleyes.gif

http://www.zybez.net/community/index.php?s...76696&hl=slayer

I know, its AMJ, but its a great guide. hash.png

I dont like the way he writes his guides.

and wheras his guide takes a few hours to read fully (I have read it in full) and it hasnt been updated fully since chaos tunnels/slayer update.

Yea sure, Read AMJ's guide if you want the full 9000 bits about slayer, but this guide has never been to replace or replicate that. This is based on my own experience and is designed to A) be easy to read and cool.gif be quite quick to skip through.

If you dont wanna use it, so be it.... maybe I'm wasting my time but I am enjoying it.
 
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QUOTE (Theevildead2 @ July 07, 2008 01:17 pm)
-Warped Tortoises
Slow XP

This maybe so in some cases, but you can gain around 150K GP an hour doing these tasks. There is a topic on how to make effective use of this task which maybe you can incorporate into your guide, which can be found here:

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...?showtopic=5413
 
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Posted: August 23, 2008 05:59 amTop
   
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Sorry I havent been working on this lately... Hand issues tongue.gif

Please note I targeted my reccomendations with Summona for SPEED, as if you are using her as a master that is what you are more than likely aiming for.

Quoting the "Slayer master's" section:

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If your main aim is to gain the most XP then summona will probably give you a greater long term XP/hour than Duradel, however she does miss out on some of the good dropping tasks that Duradel assigns such as Steel/Black Dragons and Dark Beasts.

If you are aiming to gain XP, fast the summona is the one to go for.

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I understand the above post as it is ment for Speed, i know alot of people myself who slay for money too and they don't matter what the drops <3 This is why i made Warped Tortoise guide on money making for those who are killing for EXP and Money. smile.gif
 
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