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Posted: September 25, 2008 12:53 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() | If you're lazy just look to the bottom of the page for a summaryHey guys, I just want you guys to know there's going to be a change around here. I've noticed the lack of effort that goes into warring which leads to a lack of wins. I've been thinking and I've decided I'm not going to force you guys to go into any more mini wars that I know we can't win and I personally won't ask you guys to go to more than one war a week. But in request, for any mini war that we do have I expect the best attendance possible, many hybrids, no backtalk and maximum cooperation. That is if you want to win. I assume you do want to win, boosts moral, we're all happy, better reputation and all that good stuff. The thing is guys, the "Golden Age" of WG, in terms of warring, was when Kenshln was warlord. What Kenshln did was make sure we could win a war, and make sure we got every possible person to a war. There were no excuses, no backtalk, no questions. His word was law. If you were online you were at the raid, if you weren't you would get a warning level, a lecture, or even get kicked off the raid/war. You were binding, you were doing your best, it was a team effort. Ken was a winner, and that's what I'm gonna try to do for you guys, be a winner. I have this rank for one reason: I know what it takes to win. Sadly right now we don't have it. I hope you guys realize I'm only doing this because that's what's best for WG. I know my true friends will support me. Excuses I will no longer be taking for not coming to a war: "I'm not good at it!" "Binding runes cost too much!" "I wouldn't be any good if I went to a war anyways." "I'm kind of busy at the moment sorry." "I'm not in the mood." ETC We bring binds TO GET BETTER at binding. Don't be discouraged. We go to wars TO GET BETTER at warring, so it really isn't a valid excuse. The truth is guys when I was a member in the past and now I didn't want to go to F2P wars half the time, but I went cause my clan needed me there. I go to every war now because I LOVE IT and I WANT to =)... Every member matters, I honestly mean it when I say you guys aren't just numbers. One person can change the outcome of a war with good effort, I really value your support and effort. Hop to P2P I'll give you binding runes for junk. I know WG is more of a skilling/community clan now, so I will be making a warring list, if you are on that list you are expected to be at a war no matter what. This warring list is more of a commitment then a segregated list. I do not wish to divide WG, skillers are NOT required to come to wars, but are welcome. However they will be cut in matched opts since we need to give our fighters priority. This will be tweaked If you do not bind for a good reason at a war you may get no attendance depending on the situation. We will have an MVP award for every war from now on, this person will get double attendance and there may be a topic regarding it. At times you may think I'm being a penis, but please know if I ever confront you its never personal, I like many of you as friends and clan mates SUMMARY 1. I will be stricter now, enforcing rules, giving out warning levels for no binds, and if you do not attend a war and are on the warring list. 2. There will be a warring list, it is more of a commitment so I have a general idea of what we pull to wars and what I can expect. If you are on this list you will come to a war no matter what or there will be consequences. 3. There will be an MVP for wars, maybe even 2. This person will get double attendance and will be announced. I will choose this person who has cooperated the most, binded well, tanked well and had overall great moral. 4. On the contrary if you do not bind at a war and were asked to you will get no attendance+a warning level. Beware. 5. I appreciate all of you guys, I'm very thankful for your support, I love your feedback, every one of you matters and that's no lie. We all need to come together as one to succeed. Let's kick ass. Brandon ![]() -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 12:55 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Damn right brandons got the right idea guys hes going to bring this clan back up to another golden age you just wait and see. edit 1: no excuses anymore -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 ![]() http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 01:08 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 ![]() ![]() ![]() | oh man those excuses are the ones i used D: -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 01:09 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 ![]() ![]() ![]() | If I am aware of a war, I try to make it at all costs. Sometimes in real life issues come up and I cannot make it. I agree with what you say, but I am sure that there will be a few that will not. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 01:49 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I don't like the idea of the warring list. I'd probably end up on the skillers list (If I were to return) but I still like to attend wars once in awhile. If I really want to go to one war, and haven't attended one in a few weeks I'd be a little pissed that the only one I went to, I got cut. Edit: But I DO agree with everything else. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 01:53 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() | There is no skillers list, that would be dividing the clan. The warring list is more of a commitment so I know who is willing to come to wars no matter what, as long as they are on the list THEY MUST come to these wars. Skillers are welcome to come to wars but are no required, nor will they get priority no matter who they are if they are not on this list. -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 02:12 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Good to know, but please, no need for a 'warring list' memberlist, just make it a forum-based list. If we make a ML for Warring, then I'm pretty sure a lot of people are going to ask for a skilling ML as well, and it would do our RSC rep no good, as they view Warring list ML's (Such as TDM's) an excuse for inactivity (TDM for example fight with both lists, which is kinda unfair for some clans) so let's just keep it Forum-based please (In other words, a thread that contains this list in the Level 1 Security forums instead of Runehead.net) -------------------- ![]() MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 02:14 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Pazenon Group: Emeritus Posts: 1477 Member No.: 33 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 79 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Sweet, I <3 wars. ![]() And yeah, what Mike said about the memberlist. ^ -------------------- | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 02:31 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Its just a better way to organise our members but if you guys are uncomfortabl with a ml we dont have to do it -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 ![]() http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 02:34 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I like your idea Mike, I agree but we might still have an official ML depending on feedback. Great idea bud! But the list definitely won't segregate the clan, it's just more official and I can see how we are progressing with statistics on our average combat and such. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 03:09 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hey, about time we have a winner in the warlord position. ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 03:24 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Haha I'm only a raid leader, but I try my best ![]() Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 03:25 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
pssh same thing but still a winner -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 ![]() http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 05:22 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Queeneh Group: Guest Posts: 27 Member No.: 1328 Joined: September 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 5 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I editted my whole post ![]() Lets just make it so we win all the time, whatever it takes! -------------------- Angels exist, but sometimes since they don't have wings, we call them friends ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 06:08 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Angus0000 Group: Emeritus Posts: 705 Member No.: 572 Joined: May 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 128 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm up for anything as long as it increases the number of wars we have. I think Mike is right that we should keep this one close to the vest, we should show a change through our improvements rather than make it blatantly obvious up front. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 06:10 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Geofff Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1238 Member No.: 608 Joined: May 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 96 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Finally! I sure hope this works Brandon ![]()
Can you please point out any skillers for me? The most important REQUIREMENT of joining WG is to be 100 F2P Combat. People who are of this combat level or higher should have no problem warring, sure they might get piled first every time but that is their decision to make. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 06:24 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 ![]() ![]() ![]() | What's this warring list thing about? Don't even try to resurrect the sectors. They were demolished for a reason.. ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 07:46 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think it's more of a reference than a sector. Just so he knows who's willing to drop what they're doing to go to the war and to monitor progress. He's said that nobody who isn't on the list will be automatically turned away, but just won't be given priority. I assume in Full-Outs, any and all attendees will be allowed to war? If you want to make it less formal, think of it like a gathering or group therapy or something like that. Support groups. Everyone who's participating has the same goal in mind, and just doesn't want to lose sight of it, so they bind together to help each other. Not prohibiting others from joining, but just giving those who have decided to commit the priority when they are called upon. I agree that this is a good idea, but I still feel like it might create some segregation, despite the points I've made myself. I just think it might resemble the sectors a little too much. However, if you're able to make it different, like really different, then go for it. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 10:29 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Whether or not there is a skillers list, that isn't the point. But lets say I have not attended wars in about a month. Then one day, I become really war hungry, and I really want to go to the next possible war. If I wasn't on the fighting list, I had a chance of getting cut. That would really piss me off, but I don't think anyone would understand my point of view unless they were on the side of skillers, no offense tbh. I completely 100% understand the need for a fighting list. But I can almost guarantee that a large amount of the members not on the list will feel left out, and will want their own list. There really is no simple solution for this. Those who commit on the warring list don't deserve to be cut. They made a commitment, and they should be able to attend as many wars as possible without being cut. On the other hand, sometimes the rest of us do like to war, just not every waking moment of our RS life (exaggeration). Getting cut every time because we aren't on the fighting list will aggravate some people, myself included. If you decide to use these fighting lists, try to have a few more full outs to make the rest of us happy ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 02:34 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yeah, that would be a pretty big problem. I personally would be on the list, because that's what I do anyway. Go when I'm needed, but I can totally understand how aggravating it would be to get cut each time I really wanted to war, only because I wasn't on the list. Maybe try something like each war you've got there are 5 or so spaces for walk-ons. In cases like this, 5 of the list members get put on the sideline. Who gets benched will just be a simple matter of order on the list. Alphabetical, who joined first, etc. Sure it's not the best solution, but it's a way of being unbiased. This is also just a suggestion. You might only want 2-3 walk-ons to give the warrers more practice, and have the ones who want to war rewarded. Also, have restrictions on walk-ons. Like: - can't walk-on for two consecutive wars - if you've attended a war in the past 2 weeks, give priority to someone who hasn't What I mean by the second is this: Person A is not on the list, but hears there is a war in 20 minutes and feels pumped so he decides to go. He gets there and is put in. Next week there is another war (assuming there have been several in between, thus following the no-consecutive war rule) so he decides to go again but Person B hasn't been put on yet because this is his first time. Person A should then give priority. This way those on the list get to quench their thirst, but not nearly as frequently as those on the list. In any case, just make sure you tweak it so it's not as segregating as it sounds. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 02:51 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Jesseh Group: Guest Posts: 2670 Member No.: 297 Joined: March 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 222 ![]() ![]() ![]() | My idea was shuned down, and it was basically like this. So i do not agree. -------------------- ![]() ![]() 17/6/08--> 12/9/08--> 29/11/08--> 5/1/09--> 2/3/09(Left)--> 19/7/09(Rejoin)--> 2/8/09
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Posted: September 25, 2008 06:02 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Type Group: Guest Posts: 223 Member No.: 686 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 16 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Just do what they did in TBE and have a main warring / skilling clan then a "pking team" which has the space of 40 members in it..? ~Type -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 06:18 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I dont like the seperate memberlist for warring. I can see problems when you want people to attend a war " im not on warring list I dont have to come" and so on. However I agree that we need to get toughen up on warrings, Ive seen alot of people not attending the wars because of lame excuses and reasons. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 07:01 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Geofff Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1238 Member No.: 608 Joined: May 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 96 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You're idea wasn't shunned down. 1 person didn't like it cause they mis-understood it. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: September 25, 2008 07:31 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 ![]() ![]() ![]() | WOW What a post. Real leadership quality Brandon. Hey, I'm not the highest combat level, but i attend nearly all wars. I bind, i listen to the leader. And for those of you who dont know, I am a skiller... I'm with you 100% Brandon. I actually find wars fun, the excitment is really something skillers should look forward too TBH. Great post again Brandon, this is what we need. ~Saad -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||
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