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 Stance on RoT
Posted: December 12, 2008 09:07 amTop
   
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I have spent quite some lengthy time discussing RoT in the UN.
It is generally agreed that the only way to stop them from crashing, is to crash them into hibernation or extinction.

However it is my belief that this must be done with at least some dignity.
Meaning if we do this, it will be strictly for discipline.
We will not flame them or ridicule them.
We only seek to weaken them.

The UN has discussed this for some time, and RoT won't listen to reason.
So we resort to discipline in the way a parent punishes a child.
We have to invalidate their bad behaviour.
Depending on their strength and ours, we may or may not have other clans with us.

I am considering a similar outcome for SE, should we become strong enough.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 09:19 amTop
   
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Definitely. Like the good old days.

I loved owning RoT daily, although I doubt this will work, because RoT don't die no matter what we throw at them.

BUT, I must say, lowering their morale when they die constantly may end in alot of them leaving, and causing them to have hardly any opts to their crash fests.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 09:38 amTop
   
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Considering we pull about 30 opts to most raids I don't see how we're going to crash them as such. Great idea though.
And there's no way in hell that we'd be able to crash SE sleep.gif Community events, maybe, though I think that they hardly do them but PK trips, never angryhahs.gif.png

Oh yeah, also with RoT if we crash them midway through a PK trip they'll just return 1 iteming yet we can't because it's against our 'moral code' to do that.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 09:45 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Geoff_Bland @ December 12, 2008 09:38 am)
Considering we pull about 30 opts to most raids I don't see how we're going to crash them as such. Great idea though.
And there's no way in hell that we'd be able to crash SE sleep.gif Community events, maybe, though I think that they hardly do them but PK trips, never angryhahs.gif.png

Oh yeah, also with RoT if we crash them midway through a PK trip they'll just return 1 iteming yet we can't because it's against our 'moral code' to do that.

Stay positive.
We are very capable of getting good options if we put our minds to it.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 10:27 amTop
   
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1. They will just return as 1-itemers

2. RoT has a clan community as well, I doubt they will disband because they are constantly defeated
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 10:29 amTop
   
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1. By which stage we will leave.

2. Clans die if they grow weak.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 11:43 amTop
   
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We can't really hunt RoT without having clans aiding us. RoT is extremely good at P2P and we don't have the numbers to beat them, and in F2P they only 1 item. Not worth losing rune while we're fighting d'hide crafters.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 12:27 pmTop
   


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Good luck with that.

I think we arn't ready for this yet.
We should get active in p2p first, and get comfortable with it before taking on RoT.
Disagree or w/e but RoT is still top 5 in p2p allthough they might use NH tactics just to win.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 01:06 pmTop
   
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Don't be so pessimistic.
If WG is to grow we have to keep believe we have it in us.
It's because people don't have faith in WG that WG isn't at the top.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 01:55 pmTop
   


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I do have faith,but I'm just facing reality..

We can't just step up and start crashing RoT without any experience in p2p.
They'll turn on us, and make us look retarded.


It's a good idea, but you should have said in the first place that we're gonna focus more on p2p pvp now.
Then when we're getting better at it, take down RoT.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 03:25 pmTop
   
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We'll definately need our allies to help us, as they will ally with others. We can do this guys if we put our minds to it smile.gif
 
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And who is going to be assisting us?
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 04:38 pmTop
   
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There will always be idiots in the world, and they join RoT. They wont die, unless they get destroyed internally.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 05:18 pmTop
   
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Cool, though I doubt this will kill them.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 05:23 pmTop
   
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I am considering a similar outcome for SE, should we become strong enough.


Problem is that SE is on good terms with lots of the clan world, and they don't crash neko2.gif
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 05:31 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Ragingwealth @ December 12, 2008 05:23 pm)
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I am considering a similar outcome for SE, should we become strong enough.


Problem is that SE is on good terms with lots of the clan world, and they don't crash neko2.gif

They are immature, and yes, they do crash. They tried to crash our anniversary events.

SE also spy on other clans, and they have gained several enemies in doing so. Really, we'd need to REALLY shape up before taking on SE, but we should maybe stir some controversy etc to weaken them before trying anything else.
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 05:59 pmTop
   
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I am considering a similar outcome for SE, should we become strong enough.


Problem is that SE is on good terms with lots of the clan world, and they don't crash neko2.gif

They are immature, and yes, they do crash. They tried to crash our anniversary events.

SE also spy on other clans, and they have gained several enemies in doing so. Really, we'd need to REALLY shape up before taking on SE, but we should maybe stir some controversy etc to weaken them before trying anything else.

I ment crash PvP events tongue.gif
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 10:28 pmTop
   
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In all honesty, I don't see what all the fuss is about.... it's only a game, and they are playing it the way they like. While their way may not be fun and helpful to everyone, who are you to say they shouldn't be allowed to play how they want? Just because you don't like the way someone does something, it doesn't mean you should just devote yourself to stopping them at all costs. You are taking away their way of having fun, which I am fully against. However I am currently emeritus, so do what you want... just voicing my opinion...
 
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Posted: December 12, 2008 11:27 pmTop
   
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Time to spank 'em into submission
 
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Posted: December 13, 2008 12:47 amTop
   
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Yesterday while I was on RS something happened that has not happened in a long time.

A RoT came up to me harrassing me because I was WG. All the old hatred and ill will came crashing back again.
I am quite ready to take up the cause.
 
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Posted: December 13, 2008 12:52 amTop
   
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RoT dont die
Just like TSC, they dont stay down

We could try, but how long it lasts is the question.
 
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Posted: December 13, 2008 01:02 amTop
   
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Oh guys get over it. If RoT "dies" Tsc will take over as the new RoT. If TSC dies a new nh clan will be made to bitch out everyone. What we need is to have a clan "alliance" between the last lasting honour clans in which we all defend against horrible clans like RoT. From pkris,partys,orgys. But yes take them down it will last a week tops.
 
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Posted: December 13, 2008 01:11 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Ragingwealth @ December 12, 2008 05:59 pm)
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I am considering a similar outcome for SE, should we become strong enough.


Problem is that SE is on good terms with lots of the clan world, and they don't crash neko2.gif

They are immature, and yes, they do crash. They tried to crash our anniversary events.

SE also spy on other clans, and they have gained several enemies in doing so. Really, we'd need to REALLY shape up before taking on SE, but we should maybe stir some controversy etc to weaken them before trying anything else.

I ment crash PvP events tongue.gif

Me tryin to be un biast now:

All the clan world sends out spies... in their eyes its not considered nh of course wg is much higher then that and we dont go to such low measures. And SE's leader Denat has loots of good connectoins so if we were to bring them down we would have to work extermly hard on it and still have a huge chance at failure.

soz for double post btw <3
 
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Posted: December 13, 2008 08:55 amTop
   
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I hope that other clans will actually help other then just saying they will...

If wg is one of the only clans to crash RoT, they will easily cripple us, and the small raids we have now will vanish to nothing.

Tbh, I say leave it to the bigger clans to deal with, till we are happy with the opts we pull.
 
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Posted: December 13, 2008 04:30 pmTop
   


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Thinking it was too early for any other teams being out, we walked down expecting to end our PK, when we were rushed by TBE.

RoT Starting: 80~
TBE Starting: 150~

Was a quick fight, TBE rushed us at BH and without our supreme maging they were forced to teleport out, while they were regrouping 5 RoT Members grabbed TB and when they rushed us again they were teleblocked, and forced out of the wilderness before they lost any more gear.

RoT Ending: 80~
TBE Ending: 0


http://www.zybez.net/community/index.php?showtopic=1161520
RoT's day out.
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