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Posted: March 9, 2008 12:23 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | Well, there are a few things you learn as a leader when you've taken care of WG for four and a half years. Firstly, that even the most unlikely people you could think of are capable of doing great things. Second, that age is not a true sign of maturity. Third, you can really only count on yourself. Of course there are hundreds of things I've learned, but let's just start with those three. Of the three I named, the third is what I want to speak about. In my four years of WG leadership, I have tried to rely on all sorts of people. My council of course. But eventually I would learn that no leader could last. I relied on trial members too, to bring fresh blood into the clan and help us expand. I'd rely on senior members and tertiary leaders to shape the newer members and provide entertainment. And I'd even try to rely on other leaders for advice. I'd rely on RSC too, for publicity. But in the end you learn that people can't be counted on, which is why I've had to hold WG together for 4.5 years. Serving WG members for that long is a big ask. From our first footsteps into the wilderness wearing steel, through to the immortal DOA war, onto the KF raids, DDay, The Revolution, the IRL meeting... all important parts of history, I've been there, and even left the clan once before. Now to my point. In serving WG for so long, I've had to take a lot of abuse. Nobody except Jenny can understand how overwhelming the primary leader seat is. You work hard beyond measure, and you take in a lot of abuse. I've never told anyone this before, but I'll say it now. During our first anniversary, I spent 5 weeks collecting 10M (which was a big deal at the time), going around Runescape killing monsters for half keys and other mediocre drops. I'd spend about 8 hours a day doing this. And then during the anniversary, I didn't sleep for four nights... not even an hour, so that I could bring events to the members from every time zone. On the fifth day I became really sick and my immune system shut down which explains why the last 2 days of the anniversary came a week later... after I returned from hospital. This was me aged 16. Thank God it was school holidays. I exhausted myself way beyond the call of duty, and have done so several times, but this was the worst. I often slave for WG and WG never knows. What was the result of this anniversary? Well, for a start, in my week of absence, I missed a very important leader meeting with the Council of Dragons, run at the time by Jorlejoker (or something very similar). He dropped the alliance. Then I get upset and so got into an anti-American discussion a day or two later. Noricle and Rick Hamm left WG in anger and formed The Revolution, an anti-WG clan. More than half of WG left and we were reduced from 100 members to 40, most of which went to TR. Now another confession. I illegally inherited an account on the TR forums. The name, I will not say, but I used this account to stir controversary, and I contributed to TR's downfall, causing WG to thrive again when most of the ex-members returned. This has weighed on my conscience ever since. I have done several things similar to this, which has weighed heavily on my conscience and the burden is of course getting heavier. The point is, I suffer greatly on behalf of WG. The clan website, the greatest amoung all clans even still while it is 6 months out of date... I would have spent at least 800 hours keeping it updated and secure. I would have spent in excess now, of $800AU (Currently ~$700US) and I will have counselled over 300 clan members. One, I counselled out of suicide. Another, I counselled, but he later committed suicide when he was not in WG. I can't even remember his name because it was so long ago. Others I have brought to tears, while some have brought me to tears. There was a streak of about 50 Sundays where I would get up at 7am for a raid, in WG's opening months. For over 20 wars, I would have risen at 6am or earlier, for one I vomited blood but refused to visit the hospital. No other leader has given more to any clan. You can call it sad, but I did it because I know you guys are real people, and my hard work would pay off with your happiness. Well, that's a short list of what I have done. What I bear. Day in, day out, I get insults from the clan community as well as outrageous demands from my own members. In six weeks, primary leadership reduced Jenny from a happy, down-to-earth leader... to an unhappy, introverted emeritus. Thank God she now feels better. After four and a half years of bearing the hardest job, I snapped today. Why? Because I realised, as I was speaking to Snowzak... WG doesn't do anything for me in return. Here I am, working like they couldn't imagine... slaving in ways that they will not understand. And yet, they keep demanding more and don't give me anything in return. Yes, thank you for your compliments. I'm happy to receive them, but they are just sweet talk. But in terms of respect, I have little. You may admire what I've done but at the end of the day... how many people gave me photos to help me work on the clan website when I asked? How many people are putting screenshots in their recaps like I asked? How many of the council members completed their entire to-do list when I went to Europe? When I told WG to recruit on RSC, who apart from two or three members gave it a shot? When I made the topic "All Must Have Teamspeak", why do I not see every member registered? For 4.5 years, I kept telling myself "One day they will respect you. Just show them you are a worthy leader." I said "Any day, my slavery will be returned as respect for my authority". Today I woke up. I'm not a leader. My commands are not being listened to. They are general guidelines WG may or may not choose to follow. When I broke down in a serious bout of anger, the members active in the IRC chose to ignore me and go to a miniwar rather than listen to what I had to say. Then I was argued at viciously by my own members on my topic and in PMs. What sort of loser am I to slave so hard for WG and be abused so badly? This isn't a single time. I've given WG many, many chances saying "No, it won't happen. I'll express myself and let them know how I feel, and they'll outgrow it". I have vented my anger several times. A famous one is the TS rant. But people aren't getting the message. In 4.5 years of leadership, things haven't changed since day one. I have been spoken to nicely by most, telling me how great I am... but when it comes to obedience and helping in the work I assign, WG is slow to help. "Lordy will fix it". In my six week absence, you were relying on me to return and bring us back to success. And I fell right into it I tried, and in the process, got abused viciously. I have tried to share the work but even when people promise to help, they rarely do. It sometimes comes to a point whereby I shed a tear when someone does a favour for me. Today my tolerance for abuse has peaked. I have calmed down significantly. I was initially going to destroy the clan forums and stick something rude on the clan website, but I have calmed my rage. I was, tomorrow, going to announce my departure, showing great anger and humiliating WG however I could. No, that's not how I'm going to go out. I'm more calm now. I choose to give my two weeks notice and obtain ex-member rank. Maybe emeritus if I feel I can tolerate WG. I don't want anyone to try to change my mind. You know how I am. Not only am I stubborn, but I know a few things... 1. You may say "Don't throw away 4.5 years. It will be for nothing". To which I respond, in those 4.5 years I have suffered... greatly. Physically, mentally, and emotionally. You will never comprehend the breadth of what I've done. I'm the sort of person that says "I will give another chance if I can believe people will change". For 4.5 years I convinced myself WG would outgrow it. No longer. No matter what you guys may tell me... I know I am going to get abused if I stay. I no longer have that amount of tolerance. 2. You may say "Give us another chance to improve. We know what you are feeling now, we can get better". This is one I have heard many times. I get promises from members to commit, and work harder. They say this to lure me back, and then once I'm back, they will forgetr their promise and I become their slave again. 3. You may say "Take a break". I just took a six week break. They aren't helping. Breaks just mean I have more work waiting for me when I return because I fall behind 4. You may get angry and leave because you have just lost faith in WG. Just proves my point. Instead of accepting my suffering, you consider me to be selfish and undedicated. 5. You may apologise. Like I said. WG has a tactic of trying to bring me back with sweet words. But now I have no more tolerance. I have seen this scenario before. Nothing changes. I can only rely on myself. 6. You may say "You won't quit. You'll be back". To which I say... I've been without WG for 6 weeks. I think I can manage a life without this clan quite comfortably Abmanju will become your primary leader in two weeks time. I'm not going to consider WG's future too much. My term in power ends in two weeks. I'll make my personal goodbyes in due time. I would say it's been a pleasure, but I don't want to finish this post with a lie. --------------------  | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 12:34 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | I've ready every word. Now I understand. That Hello & Goodbye post certainly awoke my eyes to how you do things and how you suffer because of Wg. I knew you already suffer from Wg being a Primary Leader, every Leader of a clan does. I agree when Jenny was Primary Leader, Wg broke her down, which was very harsh. I'm sorry I didn't fulfil my job when you were away. I don't know what else to say, those last points, they are all true, and won't work in this post. You've brought happiness to many people. That is priceless, I'll never be as a good leader as you, Eugene. I'm really thankful that you are staying for at least two weeks, VERY thankful. I do hope your Real Life goes really well, I'm sure it will, It's very important, I think you've suffered for 4.5 years long enough. Stay in touch, I have your Msn. I'm almost speechless, there's no point trying to convince you, I already tried. ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 12:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Dalejamesw Group: Banned Posts: -1280 Member No.: 14 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 222 | **** there goes the best clan leader in the clan world. I have the most respect for you Eugene you always helped and listened to me yet i hardley ever give you the same respect back. I am going to say it because it is worth a shot but Please Please think about it. I dont think WG will feel the same without you at its Helm. Hopefully Abs will do a great job because he learned from the Best. If i knew any of this before this topic i would of done everything i could to take some of that busy runescape life from you and im sure the rest of the clan would aswell. Everyone always come to you because you we're so great. If i ever needed someone for help i knew you would be willing to help me. Please Eugene re-consider. -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 12:48 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | I quite honestly don't know what to say... I guess all I can do is thank you with all my heart on the work you have done over the years. We had many successes and they are all down to your good leadership Eugene. Even if you don't want to admit it, you did an awesome job with WG. No leader can carry on leading a clan for years and I think it's incredible that you stayed through thick and thin to help WG for 4.5 years. There's nothing more I can say that will describe my feelings towards you... I will always respect you Gene. Take care in the future and stay safe ~George  --------------------    | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 12:48 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 |
2. You may say "Give us another chance to improve. We know what you are feeling now, we can get better". This is one I have heard many times. I get promises from members to commit, and work harder. They say this to lure me back, and then once I'm back, they will forgetr their promise and I become their slave again. -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 12:55 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Groedius Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1556 Member No.: 99 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 256 | Well what do i say Im going to miss you soo much eugene You have done soo much for us and had an impact on alot of us even if you do not feel that way Its been a honor to be in wildguard with you It was a honor to shake your hand you was a great leader you will be missed Best of luck to you Eugene your a great guy and you will go far in life --------------------   | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 12:55 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | good luck spending more time getting laid. You have done so much for the clan i have seen and most probably overlooked in the 2 years i've been here and most definatly going to miss all the ts episodes. wish you all the best with your composing and hope to see you visit some times -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
Best pker + most mature summer awards 2011 | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 01:03 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jaxx Group: Ex-Member Posts: 365 Member No.: 109 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 2 | keep in touch mate? still come back to london sometime and meet me steve snowy and others again? If you have another msn add me on it (y) Good luck with your future mate Sadly i can see WG dieing now, WG Till The End. --------------------    | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 01:19 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: karel Group: Emeritus Posts: 1021 Member No.: 57 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 89 | Lordy, its honestly been a great time having you as leader. Good luck for the future. Nothing else to say. -------------------- Sig? | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 01:24 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I saw this coming, but not so soon. It's quite shocking really. I really don't know what to say, I cannot picture WG without you. -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 01:30 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Snowzak Group: Emeritus Posts: 1193 Member No.: 5 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | (13:22:10) <@Lordy|AFK> yeah... and why did i choose the warlord to be french. we all know the french lose every war. You know, when I got elected, I was waiting for the first person to make that comment, and I'm glad you made it. I could sweet word you concerning your leadership, but I know many will do that for me. I'll post what I'll mostly remember of you Eugene, your sense of humor - always on IRC I smile when I see your snide comments, sarcasm, jokes. I've even laughed in front of my computer many times just by chatting on the WG IRC. And those are the times of my clan life that I choose to remember. Thanks. --------------------  London RL Meeting attendee - Paris RL meeting attendee Joined WG in October 2005 - Original DG - Ex-Raid Leader Proud Council Member from October 21st 2007 to May 19th 2008 | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 01:37 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | Well i can't deny that im shocked. Not just at the hard-to-reach tipping point to lead you to this, but at the appauling response from some of the members. I can honestly say, hands on the table, you are the hardest working clan leader i've ever known. Hell, not just rs, i'd be surprised if there was a leader to top you in any game. I've always admired the way you've kept heading even when the opposition is abundant. I honestly don't know how you've coped; it literally takes a super human to stay through it all and keep committing. But as you well know, one of the most annoying things about being a leader is the lack of appreciation the members have. Unlike a boss at work, you're not getting paid, and you're working much harder than the members who are basically just in for the ride. If you put on a brave face, people think that leading is easy, so that when a leader shows a weakness, they immediately jump on it. You had every right to rant like you did, especially when people don't seem to listen. I've always tried to help out do things here and there. When I was a member i asked to help out with the pictures and hall of fame, but you didnt reply =p There's a lot of work to be done to keep a clan like this up, and it has to come from various people. I honestly don't know what to say because I don't know how exactly you're feeling atm. This is your clan, and so its entirely your choice what happens in the future. You have a busy life with little spare time, yet still done a great job in balancing wg with it (althought, im sure rl has suffered as a result). I would suggest maybe stepping down to a quieter spot where you can still be within the WG community yet not have the continuous stresses that come with leadership - instead, share them out to various people so they can get a feel for it. It may seem like peoople are deliberately avoiding the work but they just don't have the right degree of devotion, or simply forget about it until the last minute. There's many great people here and even if you don't actively lead, it'll still be good to have them round, and you have no idea how motivating it is to have you around, not just as a leader. With you gone, this clan won't survive as it did. It'll still keep going, but without a strong and influential figure at the top, it'll likely grind to a hault over a period of time with less and less of the old atmosphere. If you stick around on the sidelines, the clan does have a chance of survive. And obviously, if you feel like taking the leading position again, the clan can only grow stronger. It is fairly sad that people only realise a leader's troubles when the leader shows extreme emotion but hey, that's a flaw in human nature. People tend to only see what's infront of them. People will definitely be aware now, its just question of whether you're willing to keep it going. And of course, if you chose to go your seperate ways, I wish you a great future. I'm sure you'll be a huge success a few years down the line, in many aspects of life. Which is why it'll be a shame to lose touch with you. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 02:31 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Robertw56 Group: Guest Posts: 1908 Member No.: 15 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 118 | Wow I didn't see this coming..... You were a great leader, best of luck in the future, I'm sure Abs will lead this clan as you did. --------------------    | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 02:44 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I've always had the utmost respect for you. Sometimes I wouldn't agree at all with some of the things you did, but I still believed in you. This post was a pretty big eye opener, I don't think anyone REALLY realized how much you've gone through, how much you've done, and how much you've suffered for this clan. You and your clan was the first big clan I've ever joined. WG was my first entrance into the clan world. Almost everything I am today was because I decided to join WG. I can't thank you enough for making WG what it was and making me who I am. I wish you the absolute best in life and your future. You are a great person and I hope you go out and enjoy life to the fullest. It was an honour to be led under your leadership. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 02:58 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | Since the day I joined this clan I have always looked up to you , I may not shown it or talked to you about it much but I really have, and I still do and will for ever. I hope you return some day , good luck in the future - Feels weird to saying this to someone who has been here , who is the founder of a clan that leaves. --------------------   | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 03:09 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |  -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 03:22 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | Read it all, and I'm sad. Despite that, I'm happy. I could sense your anger, frustration and distaste with your treatment. Lordy, I've known you for a while now, back in the day. I always respected you. I enjoyed talking to you. I'm not going to ask you to stay, because truly, based on all you've said, I want you to leave. No man should have to put himself through that treatment. You've done more than any one of us could ever ask for, and for that I'm grateful. I value your time, your effort, your blood, sweat and tears. I regret having left for those two years, maybe I could have done something, anything, but I wasn't there to even try. For that I am sorry. I have but one last statement remark; Enjoy what you have ahead of you, and do not let these years hold you back or hinder you from doing what you want. You did what you could, and even more than that and quite honestly had some people just spit in your face. You deserve this more than any one of us, and given that you should just leave, but you, even when you're angry are humane and follow the regulations. Good-bye. ~ The Colonel ~ David ~ 1colonel1 --------------------   | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 03:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Valdremia Group: Ex-Member Posts: 289 Member No.: 64 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 9 | I’m not sure what to say. In some ways I wish I had known the earlier days more from what you have related. Certainly there will be times that aren’t friendly but I remembered the last anniversary in 2007, after that meeting you’ve held in the RS house with what happened, I didn’t say this, but I was really very saddened at the thought of you leaving. I could feel the heartbreaking disappointment you felt. And now, I am saddened with somehow in a deeper sense of solitude. To a large degree I do understand and can relate to most of the things you have pointed out. Going through asking for help or teamwork in getting things done can surprisingly reap a lot of disappointments. And when even one is willing to lift a helping hand when asked bring about a great sense of gratefulness, or even to bother fulfilling a promise once made. The upside of it is being able to learn who can be counted on and who can’t, knowing who sweet talk their way, often never get things done to those who let actions speak louder than words. It can also go both ways. Bending often to the brink at the expense of various degree of health, whether mental or emotional will take its toll eventually. And the amount of effort unfortunately doesn’t mean spared of being judged from time to time. Then we do have to take a step back and recognize, the reality that there can almost never be that balance. Then there’s no point in hoping for it. Probably, in citing history off my head, the only person whom I see as a great example is that of Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, leaving a legacy for many as an example. He took a lifetime to give, heartbroken many times, kept moving on in his belief because he care, overworked and pressures caused him liver cancer, bent his back even till on his deathbed. Once, he had to heartbreakingly send one of his most honest followers turned greedy into the gallows. Leaders are meant to often face heartbreaking incidents or immense pressures that no one can understand unless those others experienced it themselves. That is why, very often leaders can feel alone but that’s how it is being the one ahead, unless that leader is crazy and heartless. It’s never easy. From just those things that you have related, those dedications are immeasurable. I am very sure there are those who does respect you deeply and remain fervently loyal to you as a person and friend regardless, even if there are times of disagreements. And even if they weren’t, they’d be. And you did offer a lot of patience to embrace or listen to so many comments despite the immense amount of time and dedication required. And I thank you for those times and opportunities you’ve given, including myself and all others, everything that I had witnessed throughout my stay to-date. It’s never easy to leave something that you care about - for both good or bad side of things. It might be more deserving to consider a founder position. But its your choice of course, if this is what you want and you feel that it is a comfortable choice in the end, then go with it. While some may see this as preposterous but I won’t want to say things at the expense of your welfare as an individual, even if it means at the expense of the clan. You’ve earned a lot of those deserving choices. It boils down to what will make you happy in the end, that you feel comfortable to know it is a right decision. Whether you decide the take the reins again someday or leaving it for good, or maybe moderation, a bit of both might even be a choice, I don’t know, whichever makes you happier at the end of the day. -------------------- "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." - Barack Obama  | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 03:35 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | Nearly one year ago, I joined my first large clan. I still remember the first words that you spoke to mel, and how friendly everyone was. I remember the first war that we won, and the first war (and only btw  ) war that I survived. I remember our epic charge in my first p2p, the war vs 3v0. We've endured lots of disappointments and shared great victories. I know that I can only imagine the pain and stress you went through to try to help WG. You've done a great job as a leader, and its because of you that it still exists today. Its because of you that we have a thriving community, and people that help WG stay alive. WG has been a place for all of us to mature and build character. It's a place to gain friendship, and go beyond a "game." I want you to know how much we value your efforts, even though we may not show it. At some point, everyone's time will come. WG will always be part of us, and I know that 20 years from now people will remember WG for what it is. You've endured more pain and gone beyond more then any other leader should have. I understand. Go and enjoy your life. Just know the impact you've had on all of us and how great of a community you've built. WG is and will always be in your debt, and there can only be so many ways we can show it. Good lucky lordy, I know you'll do great. -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 04:10 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pyro Blade26 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 782 Member No.: 84 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | After all that I think I'd be ready for retirement also. It's like joining the military. You can only fight for so long before you start to break down. Good luck with your music career. From what I've listened too you're very skilled at it. I hope you find happiness. --------------------     | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 04:21 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | Sigh.... Eugene, you've always been a funny and optimistic guy. You never stopped working for WG. It probably is true that we haven't appreciated what you've done for us. If you truly do leave, I wish you luck in the future. No one deserves to go through the pain that you've been through. If you ever decide to come back, I'm sure you'll be joyfully welcomed back in. What you've done for WG can't simply be described with words. Goodbye. -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 04:40 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | I don't know what to say, I'm stunned. You have been an amazing leader of WG for so long. No-one will ever show the dedication to a clan that you have shown over 4 and a half years. I thank-you, for everything you have done for WG. I'm shocked. Good luck with the rest of your life, have fun not being under the strain WG has caused you. --------------------  | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 05:04 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Emeritus Posts: 318 Member No.: 21 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 1 | Wow, I never knew you felt that way, even when you gave your goodbye post back in Fall 2006, I don't think anyone really grasped the point. However, you really are the hardest working leader I have ever known. Forums, website, publicity, and the finalization of the hardest decisions ... all that work. I think that even though you are leaving, you by far made a huge impact on the minds and hearts of both WG members and the clan community. From a personal standpoint, I really thought of you as one of my idols in this clan ever since I joined. Even though we sometimes had our disagreements on certain issues (back when I was in council/after), I still believed you were right in the end. I think your experiences alone should give you the right to be the leader of this clan, even though it seems you aren't only leading the clan, but doing a lot of the extra work. Then again, anyone, in council or in a leadership position, always have their hands full because leading a clan is certainly a ton of work. Abmanju I commend you for taking up the primary leadership position. It's a lot of work and I'm sure you'll feel the brunt of it in 2 weeks. Lordy, I wish you well. --------------------  *Proud* Former leader of the Wilderness Guardians  ^Not Reticked's idea, mine tbh (FOR REAL NO JOKE OMG)^ | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 05:14 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pazenon Group: Emeritus Posts: 1477 Member No.: 33 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 79 | I really didn't see that one coming. To my eyes, you are the greatest clan leader in Runescape. You are the most person I respect in this clan, and I know that many others feel this way. I'm not a guy of many words, especially when I know they'll not change your views in any way. My looks towards WG as a clan are not the same now. WG won't be the same without you. -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 9, 2008 05:32 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kwaichi Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1827 Member No.: 65 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 119 | Eugen... this 4,5 years of your life what you spent for wag wasnt waste of time. You boilt great community, a great clan. I understand why are you leaving, i wanted do the same few weeks ago, but i decided to stay, because some of my friends persuaded me to stay = dont left RS. WG - life without you will be hard, but i am sure this community will survive, believe your clan members. GL IRL, i hope WG will see you sometime back, some ex-members join us again too and the legendary clan will rise up Thank you hor everything what you did for us --------------------  | ||
I *was* going to shock you