Poll
Question:
Asuming the Old RS servers are coming back (you start at level 3), which would you play?
Option 1: 2007 Servers only
Option 2: Both servers
Option 3: Current Servers only
Option 4: Neither
http://services.runescape.com/m=news/2007---old-school-runescape-you-vote (http://services.runescape.com/m=news/2007---old-school-runescape-you-vote)
My first reaction was to be shocked that Jagex are actually listening to players O_o
So some questions:
Would you play on these 2007 servers?
Will the community just ruin the fun?
Would you consider coming back to RS to play them if you've quit?
Discuss away!
noooo I hate when jagex gives in. RS PLAYERS DONT DESERVE SHIT
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Probably not. Cbf Training just to PvP.
Dude... the golden age???? HIGHLY considering this
Not going to do it. I've gone this far, why go backward?
Quote from: His Lordship on February 13, 2013, 06:01:16 PM
Not going to do it. I've gone this far, why go backward?
RuneScape has advanced as a game but the PvP is complete shit, everyone knows it.
This way people can play the game they've grown to like AND others can enjoy the oldskool PvP.
Seems like a win-win to me.
I have an idea forming in my head again, should this become a reality...
I'll not sit on it for so long this time :)
This is fucking amazing. Once per millennium, Jagex listens to their players. This is one of those instances.
I would highly consider returning to play on the 2007 servers. At least casually.
I also think it's bullshit that only members can vote on the poll. Most current members don't know what it was like back then. All the old-school players have realized what a crappy game it's become and moved on. They should really open the poll to the public.
I needed to change my pants after reading the RS post.
There's not a single update I have enjoyed since returning. Honestly the only thing I can sort-of handle is the sound vials now make when you drop them.
Really looking forward to this and hopefully to the revival of the clan world that it will bring.
Quote from: Randy on February 13, 2013, 06:03:18 PM
RuneScape has advanced as a game but the PvP is complete shit, everyone knows it.
This way people can play the game they've grown to like AND others can enjoy the oldskool PvP.
Seems like a win-win to me.
1. Not going to pay Jagex more money
2. Not going to ignore the last 5 years (2007-2013) that I've worked on my account
3. Not going to relive four years (2003-2007) to achieve goals I've already achieved
4. Not going to pour countless hours into a game that doesn't change with me
5. Not going to play two Runescapes at once and waste double the time
6. Not going to enjoy 2007-scape like everyone thinks. A lot of shit has come since, but going back will remove MANY good updates.*
7. Not going to enjoy splitting WG into even more sub-clans, assuming some people don't pay.
8. Not going to believe that a 2007 wilderness will be much better than a 2013 wilderness, given how small the clan world is.
* NOTE: Everyone is recalling a highly fantasized 2007-scape where everything was awesome. In adulthood, 2007-scape is going to be a lot less magical and I'll bet you're going to be very disappointed after a dozen hours of gameplay. You remember those times so fondly because of nostalgia, nothing more.
QuoteDoes this mean I can play my character from back in 2007?
No, everyone will start fresh.
Actually, fuck it.
Edit: May make a little pure though, seeing as those will work again.
Nightshade has added a nice poll to vote in :)
Chane the poll so that it's not so stylised.
Simply "What will you be playing when 2007-scape comes"
"2007-scape"
"Modern Runescape"
"Both"
That way, we can get rid of the force-fed opinions.
"I wouldn't even consider playing somethign so antiquated, even if it gets updates."
I wouldn't, but it has nothing to do with being antiquated.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 13, 2013, 06:26:27 PM
Chane the poll so that it's not so stylised.
Simply "What will you be playing when 2007-scape comes"
"2007-scape"
"Modern Runescape"
"Both"
That way, we can get rid of the force-fed opinions.
"I wouldn't even consider playing somethign so antiquated, even if it gets updates."
I wouldn't, but it has nothing to do with being antiquated.
typical nightshade m8 :P
Changing
EoC PvP is shitty with the new gear/skills. Pre-EoC PvP is also shitty with over-powered weapons and items.
Runescape PvP is NOT going to get any better the way things are going. Would you agree?
I reset the poll since I added a fourth option - to play neither.
Please re-vote.
Not gonna bother, haven't even read the post.
I actually enjoy the EOC and think it was a needed gameplay balance, sure it still needs tweaking, but we've seen at least 2 major updates to it since release and its much more refined than it was at release.
Everyone remembers 2007 through rosé tinted glasses, based on the memories they made there. It's like asking to go back to the 90s when you were a kid because you made so many amazing memories at the time, but you'll be pissed when you realise there's no mobile phones, Internet, Xbox 360s and movies from today.
Personally, this makes me extremely happy.
However, opening this poll EXCLUSIVELY to members is bullshit, I highly doubt there are even 750,000 members in Runescape.
Let alone 250,000 of which remember what old school PVP was like.
Like Colin said, Jagex would get better results if they opened the poll to ALL players and brought the forum topic to a place where EVERYONE can read and comment on it.
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 13, 2013, 07:05:38 PM
Personally, this makes me extremely happy.
However, opening this poll EXCLUSIVELY to members is bullshit, I highly doubt there are even 750,000 members in Runescape.
Let alone 250,000 of which remember what old school PVP was like.
Like Colin said, Jagex would get better results if they opened the poll to ALL players and brought the forum topic to a place where EVERYONE can read and comment on it.
Brb making 50 free to play accounts so I can vote 50 times.
Quote from: Owen on February 13, 2013, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 13, 2013, 07:05:38 PM
Personally, this makes me extremely happy.
However, opening this poll EXCLUSIVELY to members is bullshit, I highly doubt there are even 750,000 members in Runescape.
Let alone 250,000 of which remember what old school PVP was like.
Like Colin said, Jagex would get better results if they opened the poll to ALL players and brought the forum topic to a place where EVERYONE can read and comment on it.
Brb making 50 free to play accounts so I can vote 50 times.
That's what I did with the Bring back wildy and free trade poll. <3
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 13, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Owen on February 13, 2013, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 13, 2013, 07:05:38 PM
Personally, this makes me extremely happy.
However, opening this poll EXCLUSIVELY to members is bullshit, I highly doubt there are even 750,000 members in Runescape.
Let alone 250,000 of which remember what old school PVP was like.
Like Colin said, Jagex would get better results if they opened the poll to ALL players and brought the forum topic to a place where EVERYONE can read and comment on it.
Brb making 50 free to play accounts so I can vote 50 times.
That's what I did with the Bring back wildy and free trade poll. <3
Doesn't make it the right way to conduct a poll.
Positives:
Many clans pushed into 1 or 2 worlds(?) - PVP era similarity.
PvP Era was good for P2P which was pretty much dead. You could PK and find a clan. This could be the same for a dead clan world.
GG Godwars and other things that made the Wilderness crap.
Looking at the food chain.
Removal of Godswords and other OP items.
Much preferred PKIng combat system
Negatives:
Phoenix Necklaces still around - Makes it impossible to die in p2p.
Population - Will it be enough to thrive on it, or will it turn out like RSC
Retraining - will take time. All our progress over our RS careers we are going back on. Why not just use a private server.
Split clanning community could be possible.
Paying for it as an addition.
2k7 2k7 2k7!!
We'll see what happens now.
You guys are all going to drown in your own filth.
Best of luck to you.
I'm not ever stepping foot in oldscape.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 13, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
You guys are all going to drown in your own filth.
Best of luck to you.
I'm not ever stepping foot in oldscape.
Why, Gene?
It'll be a good opportunity to relive our childhood fun.
If you think it will be as fun or even close, you are delusional.
Alain, think harder about this.
Was it REALLY that good or are you associating those times with the magic of youth?
At first I was like "WOAHHHH ..... FUCK ME"
then I was like hrrrrmmmmm "Playing Two games?....I can't even play 1 properly"
so ya I can't really invest anymore time >.>
Of course I'll pay a month & check it out just for the nostalgia.. I WUB NOSTALGIA <3333
I will reserve my full opinion for my article that is coming on Sunday Februari 24th
Will spamlink it all over...
ima come back if it comes back
I'm all for this idea but for me it's just too little too late.
It will be a pain in the ass to train up stats and make money but I really think that if enough people get on board this could be a lot of fun.
Now that I'm much older it just doesn't feel all that worth it to me right now.
I don't care what anyone says, I will play 2007 at least SOME and I will enjoy it.
Good for you, who is anyone else to take away your happiness?
I'm just questioning whether you'll be happy in the first place.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 13, 2013, 08:00:58 PM
If you think it will be as fun or even close, you are delusional.
Alain, think harder about this.
Was it REALLY that good or are you associating those times with the magic of youth?
eoc pking is shit and dead bro
2007 died first I'm pretty sure.
I personally never cared about my stats. What good is it if you do not enjoy the gameplay as much? I'll be playing both, 2007 more than the other. I don't want this to feel strictly nostalgic, just a needed reboot of a great unsoiled runescape.
I'd rather see Bush back in office than WG members on oldscape.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
I'd rather see Bush back in office than WG members on oldscape.
Bush was a great man
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 12:17:09 AM
2007 died first I'm pretty sure.
2007 didn't die, it was removed...
Quote from: Mojohaza1 on February 14, 2013, 12:48:52 AM
Quote from: Kez on February 14, 2013, 12:45:21 AM
Quote from: This Babylon on February 14, 2013, 12:40:45 AM
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
I'd rather see Bush back in office than WG members on oldscape.
Bush was a great man
Hitler did nothing wrong
North Korea is a great country to live in.
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Quote from: His Lordship on February 13, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
You guys are all going to drown in your own filth.
Best of luck to you.
I'm not ever stepping foot in oldscape.
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I was so excited when Vephyrus told me, then I read the forum in full...
I have to agree with Gene.
I'd rather they change content of the game that is not clan friendly then to go back the way it is offered to us.
Who wants to grind all the hours over again and give up all the friends they play with now?
Ohh yeah you can chat to them, but it won't be the same without the clan chats to share.
Socially this update doesn't seem like it will work out well.
Quote from: Rachellove9 on February 14, 2013, 01:45:14 AM
I was so excited when Vephyrus told me, then I read the forum in full...
I have to agree with Gene.
I'd rather they change content of the game that is not clan friendly then to go back the way it is offered to us.
Who wants to grind all the hours over again and give up all the friends they play with now?
Ohh yeah you can chat to them, but it won't be the same without the clan chats to share.
Socially this update doesn't seem like it will work out well.
You know, I agree with you and Gene about it not being the same.
But, there are several nostalgia factors at play here and the fact that the clan and wilderness are deader than Amy Winehouse and Micheal Jackson combined.
This will be a chance to model RuneScape into what we want it to be (Refer to Gene's Wilderness Revitalization Video).
Think of it as The RuneScape Clan Community as an artist and RS 2007 is our Canvas.
The possibilities are fucking endless.
Quote from: Rachellove9 on February 14, 2013, 01:45:14 AM
I was so excited when Vephyrus told me, then I read the forum in full...
I have to agree with Gene.
I'd rather they change content of the game that is not clan friendly then to go back the way it is offered to us.
Who wants to grind all the hours over again and give up all the friends they play with now?
Ohh yeah you can chat to them, but it won't be the same without the clan chats to share.
Socially this update doesn't seem like it will work out well.
Projected backup date is August 10th, 4 days after the initial Clan Chat was released. A bit of a happy coincidence I guess.
I likewise would not begin grinding out skills again, but there is a 1 or 2 months for the community to push for an alternative. Quite frankly the updates over the past 5 years have made obtaining resources and exp significantly faster and easier than in 2007, so effectively merging the servers together so resources/stats can be transferred shouldn't really have any negative effects.
I'll save my argument for an "I told you so" later.
I think I'll stick to EoC. My account was too young to enjoy 07 days at the time, on top of the fact that if I have to start over I think that'd completely ruin any chance of me trying it. If it can bring back some old WG members, sweet. That's awesome. As long as they show up to the EoC wars we have. Otherwise, I don't see this doing much for us in either direction, and quite possibly, more harm than good. I'd hate to loose our few active war-ers to essentially, a jagex-ran private runescape server. Never played a private RS server, never will. I hate doing things twice, and that includes leveling my account. That's my two cents.
All I'm gathering from this, is a clan wide split.
Some will go to EoC and some will go to Server '07...That would completely split WG apart.
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 14, 2013, 06:21:42 AM
All I'm gathering from this, is a clan wide split.
Some will go to EoC and some will go to Server '07...That would completely split WG apart.
Runescape is splitting apart.
It wont split the clan... I have ideas to prevent it...
But I'm with gene on this one when he says that this isnt going to be a lasting thing...
Quote from: Mojohaza1 on February 14, 2013, 12:48:52 AM
Quote from: Kez on February 14, 2013, 12:45:21 AM
Quote from: This Babylon on February 14, 2013, 12:40:45 AM
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
I'd rather see Bush back in office than WG members on oldscape.
Bush was a great man
Hitler did nothing wrong
North Korea is a great country to live in.
Elvis didn't do no drugs!
Why is the poll locked?
I'm in agreement with Gene here.
The game was my childhood. My childhood is in the past. I've grown through rs, as many of us have, but a good memory is all it really is. You can't be 15 again, grinding out those countless hours after school. Lots of us have jobs now, we've moved on in our lives, and while bringing back rs is a nice thought, it won't bring back our youth.
Technology has advanced significantly through the past 6 years, and what seemed like a great use of your time back then simply isn't now.
One of my fondest memories is discovering the WG (and more broadly the clan) community back in 2006. That experience can't be relived, its already happened, we know how the story ends.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's OPTIONAL so why not just vote and help the people who want it?
Maybe they see more people getting Maxed out and actually COMPLETING their Completionists cape and is trying to keep them interested in the game buy having them be #1 on the new servers.
It doesn't matter if you're for it or not everyone's right, I just don't see why you can't vote and help the people who want to play back in the old school days.
I'm completely with Gene and Abs on this one. Except the part of "never" stepping into it. I'll probably check it out just to visit, but it'll probably end up like Classic or something lol. I remember logging onto classic like twice and never logged in again. It's like a time machine though, interesting to see what it was when you first played it.
I think its daft when people judge me when I say I enjoy EoC. Both the old wilderness and combat system and the new EoC have its pros and cons. You can debate all day long on which one's better, but one thing's for sure. There's only one system you can move forward with.
I enjoy the new fluid graphics, and more complex system, it makes it more fun. However, EoC PvP does not equal wilderness. Jagex dealt the final knockout blow to the wilderness with the toggle.
Idk what makes you guys think its going to be great and so much better. The wilderness was already dead before EoC. RS "died" when Jagex removed the wilderness and free trade. The damage can't be repaired. I'm 100% sure it isn't going to be the same as what you thought it'd be, or what it was before they removed it.
Why train and make money all over in a fakescape?
What's the point of fighting in the wilderness if it's not the real RS?
Why even bother to post a victory or win?
I think it's all hunger for nostalgia tbh. I'm not saying anything cause I was there too. I was also devastated by removal of wildy, and longed for it to come back, and after that longed for the old clan pvp world to come back. But we can't go back. We can only move forward.
edit: @Jean
Quote from: Shinhwa on February 14, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's OPTIONAL so why not just vote and help the people who want it?
Maybe they see more people getting Maxed out and actually COMPLETING their Completionists cape and is trying to keep them interested in the game buy having them be #1 on the new servers.
It doesn't matter if you're for it or not everyone's right, I just don't see why you can't vote and help the people who want to play back in the old school days.
Well for multiple reasons. One, because it can divide the pvp clan world up again. Or all of RS for that matter, making things worse than they seem to be. Two, because its a backwards approach to advancing and fixing the wilderness. Three, not only can it divide the playerbase up, it might divide clans up.
I can imagine people going back to this version, and then people on the current version would be left out. And then people on the current version start complaining, and then a whole war starts. Oldscape vs. Newscape. It's already like this with servers.
O and one last thing, like Gary said. Generations of scapers. We were all young teens and kids when oldscape was around. We're now in uni, have jobs, married, at the least in high school. Why would the new generation go to an older version of scape? It'd be like me going back to classic (I started in 05/06).
Anyways, that all being said it doesn't mean I won't vote to support. Just my opinion, you're entitled to yours. It's like gay marriage. We can all be happy.
## y not
Quote from: Al on February 14, 2013, 10:04:33 AM
I'm completely with Gene and Abs on this one. Except the part of "never" stepping into it. I'll probably check it out just to visit, but it'll probably end up like Classic or something lol. I remember logging onto classic like twice and never logged in again. It's like a time machine though, interesting to see what it was when you first played it.
I think its daft when people judge me when I say I enjoy EoC. Both the old wilderness and combat system and the new EoC have its pros and cons. You can debate all day long on which one's better, but one thing's for sure. There's only one system you can move forward with.
I enjoy the new fluid graphics, and more complex system, it makes it more fun. However, EoC PvP does not equal wilderness. Jagex dealt the final knockout blow to the wilderness with the toggle.
Idk what makes you guys think its going to be great and so much better. The wilderness was already dead before EoC. RS "died" when Jagex removed the wilderness and free trade. The damage can't be repaired. I'm 100% sure it isn't going to be the same as what you thought it'd be, or what it was before they removed it.
Why train and make money all over in a fakescape?
What's the point of fighting in the wilderness if it's not the real RS?
Why even bother to post a victory or win?
I think it's all hunger for nostalgia tbh. I'm not saying anything cause I was there too. I was also devastated by removal of wildy, and longed for it to come back, and after that longed for the old clan pvp world to come back. But we can't go back. We can only move forward.
edit: @Jean
Quote from: Shinhwa on February 14, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's OPTIONAL so why not just vote and help the people who want it?
Maybe they see more people getting Maxed out and actually COMPLETING their Completionists cape and is trying to keep them interested in the game buy having them be #1 on the new servers.
It doesn't matter if you're for it or not everyone's right, I just don't see why you can't vote and help the people who want to play back in the old school days.
Well for multiple reasons. One, because it can divide the pvp clan world up again. Or all of RS for that matter, making things worse than they seem to be. Two, because its a backwards approach to advancing and fixing the wilderness. Three, not only can it divide the playerbase up, it might divide clans up.
I can imagine people going back to this version, and then people on the current version would be left out. And then people on the current version start complaining, and then a whole war starts. Oldscape vs. Newscape. It's already like this with servers.
O and one last thing, like Gary said. Generations of scapers. We were all young teens and kids when oldscape was around. We're now in uni, have jobs, married, at the least in high school. Why would the new generation go to an older version of scape? It'd be like me going back to classic (I started in 05/06).
There is no P2P clan world. If anything this will reboot the clan world.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
I'd rather see Bush back in office than WG members on oldscape.
I understand what your saying. Went too far though.
Poll unlocked, no idea who locked it.
Was in the midst of switching pages when it unlocked.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 13, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
8. Not going to believe that a 2007 wilderness will be much better than a 2013 wilderness, given how small the clan world is.
2013 wilderness is almost non existant.... not gonna be very hard for 2007 wilderness to beat 2013 imo
Since nobody is fucking listening, I'll try again.
There's a reason migrating back to 2007Scape would be good for us and the clan world at least.
Sure, like Al said, we're all married or in college, highschool or working and that's fine.
But, PKing/warring still remains and it's the majority reason most of us play for anyway.
With the EoC, that's nearly gone, clans are dying left and right, no one is PKing at any given hour.
The 07 servers will actually give our fucking clan name a meaning again. Sure, you'll have to put some time into your accounts again, so what? It's not like all of you can't spare an hour of your lives at least.
Shit, if this does go through, I'll be happy to at least give my account 1 hour's time just to be able to play RuneScape in its purest form again and actually enjoy the wilderness.
P.S: Our name shouldn't even BE Wilderness Guardians anymore, it should officially be CWA Guardians.
There's a lot of opinionated and heated banter going on in here.
Can you guys talk objectively rather than just telling people to roll in shit etc
Whilst some of the posts may have made me at least re evaluate my view - it will be what it will be and decisions regarding WG will need to be made when the outcome of this is clear. Otherwise this whole trollpost will appear again in a month when "things" have to be "sorted".
I don't want to sound like a fucking peace activist but jesus shit, just because it's your opinion doesn't make everyone else a massive faggot who is wrong.
Maybe it will be great and we will bask in nostalgia whilst having a fun time OR maybe it will open the door into our memories and completely devestate them beyond all repair, maybe it will split WG OR maybe it will start a new era of activity. Maybe it will make Jagex loads of money OR maybe it will be a horrific investment decision in an already trying time.
IT SURE IS CONJECTURE IN HERE
I got a few questions
1. Will the graphics be the same as the ones in 2006-7 ?
2. Will weapons such as claws, godswords, etc be inserted ?
3. Will summoning and all other post 2007 skills be implemented
Rammstein, it will be exactly as it was on August 10th 2007. No extra gear/monsters or anything else will be added.
Things to consider:
- starting from level 1 stats (I was already maxed by this point and the fastest exp/h was bandits @ 60k/h with max gear
- economy (there is gonna be no rune, gp or other items in the game, whereas in 2007 there was already an abundance of all of that from the 5+ years of previous gameplay)
The first month or more will be entirely self sufficient, without any form of trading (which by the way has to be done without the GE)
I predict 6 months before rune wars are a common sight, by which point most people will probably have got bored of retraining to 100+ combat and steel wars.
Whatever happens...
I have an idea that will prevent WG from splitting in 2 :)
Quote from: Ts Stormrage on February 14, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
Whatever happens...
I have an idea that will prevent WG from splitting in 2 :)
Yeah you've said that about 5 times on this topic, either post it or stop saying it.
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 14, 2013, 06:21:42 AM
All I'm gathering from this, is a clan wide split.
Some will go to EoC and some will go to Server '07...That would completely split WG apart.
Some of us (like me) haven't logged in for months except for clan events. 2007-era RuneScape would bring me back a little bit, given that f2p is back (unlikely :\).
Quote from: Rammstein on February 14, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
I got a few questions
1. Will the graphics be the same as the ones in 2006-7 ?
2. Will weapons such as claws, godswords, etc be inserted ?
3. Will summoning and all other post 2007 skills be implemented
Yes no no.
In no way am I going to play again like I did back in 06-07. I just don't have that kind of time or patience to retrain all my levels and such. (although it would be easier for me, cuz my levels were crap :>)
But if this does come back. I might actually buy membership and check it out for old time's sake. For nostalgia's sake.
It will never be like it was. For me, what made 2006-2007 so great was the culture and atmosphere of WG and the clan world as a whole. That will never come back. Most people have grown up and moved on with their lives, and RS isn't popular with kids like it used to be. RS is becoming antiquated and not drawing in a new audience.
What I'm trying to say is...if it does come back...we should all just give it a try for shits and giggles and not take everything so seriously (some people's opinions on this topic are frighteningly steadfast)
Quote from: Colinwarrior on February 14, 2013, 07:50:45 PM
In no way am I going to play again like I did back in 06-07. I just don't have that kind of time or patience to retrain all my levels and such. (although it would be easier for me, cuz my levels were crap :>)
But if this does come back. I might actually buy membership and check it out for old time's sake. For nostalgia's sake.
It will never be like it was. For me, what made 2006-2007 so great was the culture and atmosphere of WG and the clan world as a whole. That will never come back. Most people have grown up and moved on with their lives, and RS isn't popular with kids like it used to be. RS is becoming antiquated and not drawing in a new audience.
What I'm trying to say is...if it does come back...we should all just give it a try for shits and giggles and not take everything so seriously (some people's opinions on this topic are frighteningly steadfast)
Who are you kidding, you go to Western. Must have all the time lawlawlawlawlawl :3
Quote from: Asaad on February 14, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: Colinwarrior on February 14, 2013, 07:50:45 PM
In no way am I going to play again like I did back in 06-07. I just don't have that kind of time or patience to retrain all my levels and such. (although it would be easier for me, cuz my levels were crap :>)
But if this does come back. I might actually buy membership and check it out for old time's sake. For nostalgia's sake.
It will never be like it was. For me, what made 2006-2007 so great was the culture and atmosphere of WG and the clan world as a whole. That will never come back. Most people have grown up and moved on with their lives, and RS isn't popular with kids like it used to be. RS is becoming antiquated and not drawing in a new audience.
What I'm trying to say is...if it does come back...we should all just give it a try for shits and giggles and not take everything so seriously (some people's opinions on this topic are frighteningly steadfast)
Who are you kidding, you go to Western. Must have all the time lawlawlawlawlawl :3
NO U #
Can I plz be leader of WG2007scapeclan
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LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL
That has to be the funniest thing you've ever posted!!!!
Rarely do I chuckle IRL at the internet.
Guess who's attention you just caught.
I am most definetely intrigued.
You are most definitely exiled son.
Quote from: Marktonikkle on February 14, 2013, 10:34:29 PM
Guess who's attention you just caught.
I am most definetely intrigued.
How?
Who unexiled?
Only 13 percent of people in the poll say so far they want to play newscape only. Thats not split, thats pretty much a landslide in 07 servers, i could see the old school clan world making a slight comeback in this sence, because there are loads of people that hate eoc, enough that they had to do this in the first place.The fact is, eoc is a horrible combat system, with little to no risk in single without the wildy. Older scape is the game i love, not this new shit. hell, i would still max in newscape to war with you guys (thats if people war in newscape) But the older days have my heart truly, i want the satisfaction again of training at 30k per h at spiders and getting that stat. idk about you guys, but this is something ive wished for for a while. i nerd out over this shit. anyways, enough of my rant.
Most of the old clan world won't come back though. They are long gone.
meh, there will be a small playerbase at least.
Enough to make the wilderness awesome?
Nope.
At least solo PKing would be good when people work their way up to runite ores...
OH WAIT, NO IT WON'T BECAUSE YOU'LL STILL BE PKING IN ADDY AND MITHRIL!!!!
LOL GF
GF
GF
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2843/abd08.gif)
still better than newscape
When did you start playing sir?
Do you remember all this about 2007:
1. A lot of shit, like cooking fish, is done click by click
2. There is no GE, you're standing in a market shouting for what you want and if you want something obscure, you'd better pay through the nose for it.
3. No Summoning or Dungeoneering - meh I don't mind this so much
4. Glitches galore that they won't fix, but if you exploit them you'll get perm banned.
5. The run system is fucked. You'll end up running backwards if you want to go forward.
I could go on if you still think it was better than it is now.
You're just nostalgic.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 11:35:16 PM
2. There is no GE, you're standing in a market shouting for what you want and if you want something obscure, you'd better pay through the nose for it.
3. No Summoning or Dungeoneering - meh I don't mind this so much
Although I agree on the nostalgia point.
No GE is a positive for me. I enjoyed standing in w2 Fally park merching my way up. Things weren't as accessible, so gear was not received in a greater bulk.
Summoning meant you could live forever and made p2p easy of stink. Yakking it back, and basically carrying an extra inventory or two in your BoB meant people lasted way too long.
DG just allowed people to one item with C Maul in p2p. Although I can agree with you in regards of F2P, making it much more enjoyable in f2p, but are they bringing out f2p servers?
Note: I'm neutral here.
Quote from: Panda|Vulcan on February 15, 2013, 12:15:36 AM
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 11:35:16 PM
2. There is no GE, you're standing in a market shouting for what you want and if you want something obscure, you'd better pay through the nose for it.
3. No Summoning or Dungeoneering - meh I don't mind this so much
Although I agree on the nostalgia point.
No GE is a positive for me. I enjoyed standing in w2 Fally park merching my way up. Things weren't as accessible, so gear was not received in a greater bulk.
Summoning meant you could live forever and made p2p easy of stink. Yakking it back, and basically carrying an extra inventory or two in your BoB meant people lasted way too long.
DG just allowed people to one item with C Maul in p2p. Although I can agree with you in regards of F2P, making it much more enjoyable in f2p, but are they bringing out f2p servers?
over 500k votes and they said they'd have a F2P version.
edit: 750k votes, my bad! o_O
most rune items wont coome into game from smithing but from monster drops.... or bought from shops.. you can buy a rune pl8 in edgeville and full rune with chain from champions guild only things not buyable from shops will be hard to obtain like whips and other monster drop only items or high lvl player madee only items like furys
the biggest reasonon i wanna play is because im growing bored of rs lately and been trying to find another game to play and i think playing scape from scratch doing the game with very little assistance from others could be fun.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 11:35:16 PM
When did you start playing sir?
Do you remember all this about 2007:
1. A lot of shit, like cooking fish, is done click by click
2. There is no GE, you're standing in a market shouting for what you want and if you want something obscure, you'd better pay through the nose for it.
3. No Summoning or Dungeoneering - meh I don't mind this so much
4. Glitches galore that they won't fix, but if you exploit them you'll get perm banned.
5. The run system is fucked. You'll end up running backwards if you want to go forward.
I could go on if you still think it was better than it is now.
You're just nostalgic.
started in 05 m8, played 3 accounts, been banned twice, babylon was actually my account that i fucked around on when i was muted or whatever, i used to lure alot, scam like a mo (kids will be kids).
They already took too long with this update. Old runescape will never be old runescape again.
God people are retarded. Everyone's just going to play it to realize how shit 2007 actually was then realize their mistakes come back and actually appreciate the game a lot more.
I think starting from level 1, self-sufficient, is quite a cool idea. Although I won't play.
Quote from: His Lordship on February 14, 2013, 11:35:16 PM
When did you start playing sir?
Do you remember all this about 2007:
1. A lot of shit, like cooking fish, is done click by click
2. There is no GE, you're standing in a market shouting for what you want and if you want something obscure, you'd better pay through the nose for it.
3. No Summoning or Dungeoneering - meh I don't mind this so much
4. Glitches galore that they won't fix, but if you exploit them you'll get perm banned.
5. The run system is fucked. You'll end up running backwards if you want to go forward.
I could go on if you still think it was better than it is now.
You're just nostalgic.
Seeing as we are actually now just being un objective as fuck, I'm going to savagely support 2007 scape on this thread
1. I LIKED cooking fish click by click, stringing bows click by click, mining the hard way etc. I EARNED my levels. EOC came out and all my years of hard work were thrown away by kids getting 99s in 1/4 of the time because of updates for the lazy.
2. Market trading is so much better. It's like real life, you can merchant effectively, make judgements based on your own intellect rather than what the game FORCES you to sell/buy for. There's an element of risk.
3. Yes, those skills suck, especially pokemon.
4. Not really an issue, EOC is ruined by bots. If enough votes are taken there will be a development team. Not that the current EOC team can even sort out their current shit making this a moot point.
5. I still do that in EOC. Shitty java game.
I honestly think that you are angry because its belittling all your past achievements. So am I, I don't and probably wont want to get 99 fishing again as it took up so much of my life in the old system. But I for one am looking forward to a chance at a second go KNOWING what we do now. Its going to be a real social economic experiment and i'm curious as to what will happen over the first months. Mith and Addy wars? Great. Won't this give others a chance to see first hand how WG was borne out of PK's wearing the very same? It's like the ghost of christmas past.
Will I max, probably not. Will I even play this much, probably not. Not that I don't want to, it's just a lot is going on in real life. In my retirement I will play things like this all day every day until the day I perish. Sometimes I question your motives in your ruthless assault against 2007scape Gene as you can't commit to it either for the very same reason. We just need to bite the pillow and relax, it's coming regardless of how much we squirm.
I'm not even exaggerating, this will probably be the death blow for Jagex/Runescape, if it gets it's own development team.
It'll flourish for a few months, then turn into classic.
Quote from: Owen on February 15, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
I'm not even exaggerating, this will probably be the death blow for Jagex/Runescape, if it gets it's own development team.
It'll flourish for a few months, then turn into classic.
For being an antiquated game, Classic's doing very well despite not being advertised as much and pretty much hidden from the main site.
Your argument is invalid, sir.
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 15, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: Owen on February 15, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
I'm not even exaggerating, this will probably be the death blow for Jagex/Runescape, if it gets it's own development team.
It'll flourish for a few months, then turn into classic.
For being an antiquated game, Classic's doing very well despite not being advertised as much and pretty much hidden from the main site.
Your argument is invalid, sir.
How are you still a soldier, go train noob
As someone who has stood by F2P PvP since 2005, I would say now is the time to ditch it and focus on P2P. Jagex have offered too much incentives to become P2P and consequently means there will never be fresh meat entering the F2P scene.
Since the release of EOC, a lot of you seem to have forgot or chose to ignore the promised Wilderness update:
QuoteIn the fourth live Q&A session, it was mentioned that there will be updates to the Wilderness to try and get more skillers into the wilderness, such as better resources. It was specifically mentioned that there would be an improvement on the agility return from the Wilderness Agility Course.
With two new upcoming skills it is plausible Jagex could make the Wilderness offer big rewards again. Sure it would be under the light of EOC, but it was the chaos of activity which initially made the Wilderness enjoyable.
Nevertheless, I will of course vote, but don't give up completely on 2013.
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 15, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: Owen on February 15, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
I'm not even exaggerating, this will probably be the death blow for Jagex/Runescape, if it gets it's own development team.
It'll flourish for a few months, then turn into classic.
For being an antiquated game, Classic's doing very well despite not being advertised as much and pretty much hidden from the main site.
Your argument is invalid, sir.
(http://puu.sh/22V2H)
Yep, doing great.
Quote from: Owen on February 15, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: Kung_Man149 on February 15, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: Owen on February 15, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
I'm not even exaggerating, this will probably be the death blow for Jagex/Runescape, if it gets it's own development team.
It'll flourish for a few months, then turn into classic.
For being an antiquated game, Classic's doing very well despite not being advertised as much and pretty much hidden from the main site.
Your argument is invalid, sir.
(http://puu.sh/22V2H)
Yep, doing great.
That's a good day not to mention. Always averaged 40 people on w2.
#rs2007
.2007 to see the vote count. (In #rs2007)
Runescape might have been pretty shit but the PvP was awesome.
Might as well just make levels adjustable.
I'm most likely going to start up again on the 2007 servers with my brother, we agreed Runescape was a game we fell in love with back then and I'm not going to pass up the opportunity to play again.
It's just unfortunate that Jagex is trying to make money off the nostalgia of it's (former) fan base.
Imagine if they just opened up a couple of regular servers that were 2007scape. No poll. No hiked-up membership. No big deal. And you can just play if you want. If not, that's cool too.
But no, Jagex knows that RS is dying and they are desperately looking for answers. So they are glamorizing 2007scape as some new game that warrants more money and they're making a big deal out of nothing.
They're doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. (and more money)
Meh... I may consider playing a bit more if they come back...
Not because of how things were, but more because I haven't been able to be involved in RS for a few years now, and as a result, I am not up to date with all the new fangled combat systems etc...
So FOR ME, it would be easier to start playing again on 2007 servers.
HOWEVER. I am not necessarily saying that is the correct thing for Jagex to do...
Quote from: Robertw56 on February 15, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
I'm most likely going to start up again on the 2007 servers with my brother, we agreed Runescape was a game we fell in love with back then and I'm not going to pass up the opportunity to play again.
ROBERT!!!!!!!!!!!
guys can i plz leader wg 2007 cape division
Did anyone miss the part where Gene referred to Bush, but he's not even American... Ok guy
or the part where he talked about runescape as if he actually played it
nah im jk man we all gotta fight for what we believe in yo
Quote from: Fuls on February 15, 2013, 06:56:08 AM
God people are retarded. Everyone's just going to play it to realize how shit 2007 actually was then realize their mistakes come back and actually appreciate the game a lot more.
Which means vote for 2007scape so people will realize and play EoC more. ##
Quote from: Al on February 16, 2013, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: Fuls on February 15, 2013, 06:56:08 AM
God people are retarded. Everyone's just going to play it to realize how shit 2007 actually was then realize their mistakes come back and actually appreciate the game a lot more.
Which means vote for 2007scape so people will realize and play EoC more. ##
That's the thing though, I reckon a big portion of people that are currently still playing EOC will play 2007, get bored, then cancel their entire membership
Quote from: DZ on February 16, 2013, 03:39:21 AM
Quote from: Robertw56 on February 15, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
I'm most likely going to start up again on the 2007 servers with my brother, we agreed Runescape was a game we fell in love with back then and I'm not going to pass up the opportunity to play again.
ROBERT!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey mate, how're things? Just seeing your name brings back some good memories.
Might aswell vote now. It's happening anyway.
Meh, at least maybe they can use the money they scam by doing this and make some actual good updates on EoC-Scape. This thing will die after a few months anyway
actually hopefully they improve exp rates on oldscape, and eventually realize that noone in the community likes eoc, and it withers away in a slow painful death
Quote from: This Babylon on February 16, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
actually hopefully they improve exp rates on oldscape, and eventually realize that noone in the community likes eoc, and it withers away in a slow painful death
Some men just want to watch the world burn
Quote from: This Babylon on February 16, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
actually hopefully they improve exp rates on oldscape, and eventually realize that noone in the community likes eoc, and it withers away in a slow painful death
keep dreaming bro :3
Interested to know who the 10 people who said 'Neither' (if any current active members).
Quote from: Panda|Vulcan on February 16, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
Interested to know who the 10 people who said 'Neither' (if any current active members).
I'm pretty sure it's emeritus probably, smf doesnt let you see who voted what though :O
Quote from: Wayshow on February 16, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: This Babylon on February 16, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
actually hopefully they improve exp rates on oldscape, and eventually realize that noone in the community likes eoc, and it withers away in a slow painful death
Some men just want to watch the world burn
Let's be real for a sec, why are you playing if you hate EoC so much? Do you or do you not like the game? 1. Just because people vote for 2007scape doesn't mean they hate EoC, 2. You're looking at the situation in one direction. If you step out of the box you'll realize every aspect of the game has substantially been improved or will be improved (skilling, regular combat, PvM, questing, graphics, little things like tasks/challenges, game engine), EXCEPT PvP.
We're
lucky Jagex admits fault and addresses problems (microtransactions, giving away free experience the wilderness, and even now releasing the toggle). It's a company and they have to profit, but more especially because their venture capitalists, IVP, won't give them another round of funding if they don't profit, which might result in the game genuinely being dead. In the end, Jagex doesn't owe us
shit, so people that complain and hate the game should really stop playing. EVERYTHING in life gets old, you do neither the community or yourself any good by continuing to play a game you no longer enjoy.
Yeah, the community is fed up with Jagex and they might not deserve an ounce of forgiveness for anything now, at least they're trying. At least we still have something to enjoy. And maybe we can sit out this toggle just like we did throughout the wilderness removal, Bounty Hunter, EP, etc. Like we always have.
Btw, I'm not speaking against or for anyone. You're entitled to your own opinion, just hopes this shed a new light.
Quote from: Owen on February 16, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: Al on February 16, 2013, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: Fuls on February 15, 2013, 06:56:08 AM
God people are retarded. Everyone's just going to play it to realize how shit 2007 actually was then realize their mistakes come back and actually appreciate the game a lot more.
Which means vote for 2007scape so people will realize and play EoC more. ##
That's the thing though, I reckon a big portion of people that are currently still playing EOC will play 2007, get bored, then cancel their entire membership
That's true and you're right. The whole "Omfg this game is so shit they have to bring back an older version of the game" thing. Some people are just gonna get pissed and be like "Man fk this shit!"
could you guys stop being so negative nancy and raining on a parade i have been waiting on for years please
It appears regardless of your standpoint, the servers are coming back. I guess we should make a new topic on how we are going to handle it, eh?
I can shed some light on that...
The eggheads at Tip.it did some calculations, and they are projecting that, given that the current voting trend continues, the vote ends up at somewhere just short of 210k.
Usually, just before a poll closes, there is a slight bump in numbers, but that still means that 2007-enthusiasts need to pull 35k-40k votes out of their ass...
That is, if they want to pay $5 instead of $15
Given that 500k votes isn't even anywhere in sight at this point (but tuesday morning we'll know more, as the non-weekend people will then start to put their vote in), it's not going to be free at all...
This, combined with having to start over COMPLETELY, as well as deal with antiquated training methods, and fighting for training spots as well, confirms what I already thought...
This content is deader than the Wild...
Quote from: Jesse on February 17, 2013, 05:32:27 AM
It appears regardless of your standpoint, the servers are coming back. I guess we should make a new topic on how we are going to handle it, eh?
If it's $15 the easy way for the clan to handle it is by not migrating #
Some people will like it. Some people won't. Get over your opinions and let this thing progress - whether it happens or not.
Aslong as i dont have to play anymore than the price they ask for members now (FUCKING RIPP0FF MANE) then ill play rs07 K GG
Which means you need 500k votes...
will be there from day one, ofcourse ill play eoc more, but i am going to make a pure just to fuck around.
Quote from: Ts Stormrage on February 17, 2013, 10:36:06 AM
I can shed some light on that...
The eggheads at Tip.it did some calculations, and they are projecting that, given that the current voting trend continues, the vote ends up at somewhere just short of 210k.
Usually, just before a poll closes, there is a slight bump in numbers, but that still means that 2007-enthusiasts need to pull 35k-40k votes out of their ass...
That is, if they want to pay $5 instead of $15
Given that 500k votes isn't even anywhere in sight at this point (but tuesday morning we'll know more, as the non-weekend people will then start to put their vote in), it's not going to be free at all...
This, combined with having to start over COMPLETELY, as well as deal with antiquated training methods, and fighting for training spots as well, confirms what I already thought...
This content is deader than the Wild...
The egg-heads in NBK for some reason reckon either 166k or 539k will be the final votes: http://nbk-rs.com/rsvotetracker (http://nbk-rs.com/rsvotetracker)
Quote from: Mojohaza1 on February 17, 2013, 05:24:14 PM
Quote from: Ts Stormrage on February 17, 2013, 10:36:06 AM
I can shed some light on that...
The eggheads at Tip.it did some calculations, and they are projecting that, given that the current voting trend continues, the vote ends up at somewhere just short of 210k.
Usually, just before a poll closes, there is a slight bump in numbers, but that still means that 2007-enthusiasts need to pull 35k-40k votes out of their ass...
That is, if they want to pay $5 instead of $15
Given that 500k votes isn't even anywhere in sight at this point (but tuesday morning we'll know more, as the non-weekend people will then start to put their vote in), it's not going to be free at all...
This, combined with having to start over COMPLETELY, as well as deal with antiquated training methods, and fighting for training spots as well, confirms what I already thought...
This content is deader than the Wild...
The egg-heads in NBK for some reason reckon either 166k or 539k will be the final votes: http://nbk-rs.com/rsvotetracker (http://nbk-rs.com/rsvotetracker)
Dat Range.
It's a sensible way to analyze data, to be honest.
Quote from: Panda|Vulcan on February 16, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
Interested to know who the 10 people who said 'Neither' (if any current active members).
Yep, me ##
Quote from: Kez on February 17, 2013, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: Panda|Vulcan on February 16, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
Interested to know who the 10 people who said 'Neither' (if any current active members).
Yep, me ##
Oh, thank god ##
Oh just take your tinfoil hats off and vote. RuneScape isn't going to die.
All of the people not voting don't even enjoy the current EoC PvP so I don't know what you're trying to prove.
No, I'm not going to vote. It is abhorrent to every fibre of my being.
And if they charge $15, the update will fail.
Even if they charge $5, it will fail, but slightly less.
It's already at 145k. I suspect we'll get the 250k, but not the 500k.
Quote from: Randy on February 17, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
All of the people not voting don't even enjoy the current EoC PvP so I don't know what you're trying to prove.
I enjoy it.
The way I see it is, if you have membership there's no reason not to vote. It won't hurt WG, that's for sure.
Gene, your RSC topic seems to be going over well...
-150 rep on one post
That has to be a record.
Yes well I didn't like being so high.
Now my rep is back down to controllable levels :P
Tbh I was excited about this but just don't have the time to start an account from scratch. It would take me months just to get to a level in which I could have any fun in. Plus it won't be the same as going through my 06-07 experiences it would probably consist of grinding to get stats :(
dont see it working out but hey its worth a try, personally gonna be playing it as much as possible which probably wont be that much but still looking forward to it
FUCKING BOOM
I think its too late personally, too much is changed, nostalgia sake I may log in, doubt it though :(