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Title: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Patty on January 31, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Everyone who has issues with EOC watch this

RuneScape Poll - Combat Legacy Mode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oScwiVYggo#ws)

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/poll---legacy-combat (http://services.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/poll---legacy-combat)

You can login into RS3 and vote for this! This is promising
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Tayzon_Day on January 31, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
They really have to change the combat lvl calc.
A guy with 99 def and str and 1 in everything else is same combat lvl as someone with 99 in everything.
It used to be cool to be 130+. now, everyone is lvl 200..
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: This Babylon on January 31, 2014, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: Tayzon_Day on January 31, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
They really have to change the combat lvl calc.
A guy with 99 def and str and 1 in everything else is same combat lvl as someone with 99 in everything.
It used to be cool to be 130+. now, everyone is lvl 200..
but being a prod is more fun now as you have limited defence you can gank noobs lol
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Quikdrawjoe on January 31, 2014, 01:50:49 PM
Depending on how this works might actually bring PVP back into RS3.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: This Babylon on January 31, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Quikdrawjoe on January 31, 2014, 01:50:49 PM
Depending on how this works might actually bring PVP back into RS3.
hopefully they get this working correctly. it seems like a great idea, but the concern still is what happens with 07, as well as the future for combat in rs3. Hopefully this combined with wildy updates will spice the game up enough for it  to be great again.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Mojo on January 31, 2014, 06:03:11 PM
O.o this looks interesting.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Leffe on January 31, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
Well when this comes in the game I expect 07 numbers to go even lower. It might end up like a dead game.

I don't think they will keep 07 if this is successfull though.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Randy on January 31, 2014, 06:05:26 PM
Two of the most upvoted comments on reddit:

"I don't know what runescape is anymore, it just feels like a giant beta for a full game that has yet to come out. New content is always nice, but giant game changes like this are not fluid enough to know what the hell you are doing. You get comfortable, then they change it, then change it again. What the hell is this game anymore? Jagex seem to be caring more now because they never believed that the decline in players would really matter and now they decide to give us the chance to vote, once eoc has been around already for months. Absolutely stupid.
I actually like a lot that came with EoC, it isn't perfect but its actually ok. What is the point in trying to implement new combat abilities to make combat less click intensive and then bring out a poll to make the whole thing optional?
Jagex are in all honesty making this game far too confusing for the average player. We are constantly having to research in each new massive update on how to play effeciantly, if we wanted to really do that we would play another mmo in which you'd expect that to be necessary. Runescape was meant to be a watered down mmo, which was just easy enough to just play with minimal effort but ok gameplay. If jagex want to make runescape a real contender they need to do more than just EoC, they will need a much MUCH larger map for runescape, much better graphics and consistent game play. If that isn't possible then just stick to what we know, and keep it simple and fun.
You're taking yourself far too seriously now Runescape and its going to end you if you carry on."

"This crap is getting beyond a joke now. You either want to keep EoC combat or you remove the EoC combat. You simply can't have two completely different combat style systems in one game.
By pulling this poll it reeks of two things. Desperation and No-Confidence in the ability to maintain the EoC combat system.
Fair enough that the EoC isn't polished in we expected. But, by allowing two different combat styles shouldn't be allowed. How this even going to work on bossing that require some of the abilities used in the EoC?
I can see the advantages on bring back the old style combat for slayer, mini-games and the wilderness and general killing monsters.. but this idea.. is the worst.."
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Ronmanola on January 31, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
Time for me to buy an xbox.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Mack on January 31, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
I don't believe it will work. There has to be so much changes within the current game to balance the two combat systems lol. Worst part about this is 07 will die because of it and my grinding for months amounts to once again nothing. If this kills 07 im not going back to the original game im sick of Jagexs shit honestly.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Sean on January 31, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
Logged in and voted.

If Jagex can pull this off, I think it will be a great boost to RS3 PvP and the clan world in general. But do I have confidence that Jagex can pull this off? Hmm, I'm not too sure. :\

Additionally, it's not as if the clan world was in a great state immediately pre-EoC anyway. :S
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Novacore on February 01, 2014, 01:59:49 AM
I reckon this is just gonna be another Rs"07" which I think is declining at the moment. It's not gonna bring back old players.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Mojo on February 01, 2014, 02:03:09 AM
http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1599472-legacy-mode-clanworld/ (http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1599472-legacy-mode-clanworld/)
That is a poll on RSC showing a 50/50 split in the RSC community when asked if they'd consider going back to RS3 if this update was decent.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Patty on February 01, 2014, 02:18:30 AM
50/50 is pretty good considering if you asked that pre-announcement of this it'd be 100% no.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Mack on February 01, 2014, 02:19:50 AM
Thanks for that post Mojo. I see that I am not the only person who has strong disagreements with these future plans. Makes me feel better and safe that no matter what my work in 07 won't amount to nothing like it did on EoC  :afro:
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Josheh on February 01, 2014, 02:21:54 AM
A simplified version of combat for PvP and a complex version for PvM, I think this is fine.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: His Lordship on February 01, 2014, 02:30:47 AM
I'm getting into a most interesting conversation on RSC.
What's RSC? That place I asked you to visit and post in, but you don't.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Starzhine on February 01, 2014, 03:23:35 AM
I will vote and discuss when I can find the dang poll. All I get to right now is the information about the poll. Help! How do I get to the poll?
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Starzhine on February 01, 2014, 03:29:59 AM
Found it

For others who are RS3 challenged. You can get to the poll in game by opening the Community Window. You will see the polls with this one at the top.

Here is the quick find code for the discussion thread. 352-353-9-65274980
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: X Warrior170 on February 01, 2014, 03:48:16 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Al on February 01, 2014, 04:29:42 AM
I think I quit ("quit" as in stopped advancing in the main gameplay) at just the right time. Don't mean to be negative. This sounds like so much fuckery that I can't even feel like reading it. No offense to anyone, I know Patty first and foremost opened his eyes to this, but it's a headache. Where is Jagex going? Obviously, the playerbase (or what it used to be) is sick and done with it.

@Mack I know you wanted my opinion, you'll get it. I'm actually now a bit worried for RS3's future, maybe even more importantly my own future with RS -- not to over-exaggerate. It's been over a year since I feel like I've played the game in the proper way that I used to, PvP. I think it's about time I can't wait any longer. I don't even know what I mean by that, maybe I'll stop waiting all in all. But what would/will RS mean to me anymore?

Hope you and everyone else can sit on that thought. Seriously. And just because I was in SG has nothing to do with anything. At all. I'm not the one that wanted SG to happen. However, for many of us here, SG was our only option...often times I think about it as a forced one. Kind of how 07 is for a lot of you too?

Getting off topic here, but personally, I can't PvP in RS3 anyway I go here. For those that don't know, I never wanted WG's port to 07 to happen, but I supported it nonetheless. To further detract from goals I wanted for the clan, leadership now wants to seize the SG brand; for whatever effort, I still don't even know. This time I can't put my support in. It's all pretty disheartening.

That said, as a clan and me being part of it, we can still get things together. I know a lot of old vets here know the reason why our class isn't as successful as others is because of conditions of the game. Regardless of the updates, we need to actually work on WG.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: The_Poet on February 01, 2014, 08:58:01 AM
Good fight my 1000 hours spent in old school! :\
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Josheh on February 01, 2014, 09:02:33 AM
Quote from: The_Poet on February 01, 2014, 08:58:01 AM
Good fight my 1000 hours spent in old school! :\

If you had fun then there is no problem with spending those 1000 hours.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Lighten on February 02, 2014, 12:30:45 AM
I support
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Asaad on February 02, 2014, 04:38:46 PM
Fuck yeah, now I don't have to bother training past 45 def on osrs B)

Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Ts Stormrage on February 02, 2014, 11:27:10 PM
Here's what I have to say on this legacy thing:

http://www.tip.it/runescape/times/date/271 (http://www.tip.it/runescape/times/date/271)
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: P E A C E on February 03, 2014, 02:58:59 PM
I will not be going back to RS3. I said before that even if they brought back pre-eoc combat style it wouldn't be enough for me at this point. I don't like all the high level content they have added, warbands, divination, cosmetics, and overall free-xp-scape. I will definitely keep playing old school. There is a tiny chance I may play a little big of RS3 but I doubt it.. My favorite thing to do pre-eoc was Castle Wars and they ruined that already.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: This Babylon on February 03, 2014, 04:41:08 PM
I think they should leave os up just for nostalgia's sake, like rs classic.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Karlfischer on February 04, 2014, 04:34:10 AM
Quote from: P E A C E on February 03, 2014, 02:58:59 PM
I will not be going back to RS3. I said before that even if they brought back pre-eoc combat style it wouldn't be enough for me at this point. I don't like all the high level content they have added, warbands, divination, cosmetics, and overall free-xp-scape. I will definitely keep playing old school. There is a tiny chance I may play a little big of RS3 but I doubt it.. My favorite thing to do pre-eoc was Castle Wars and they ruined that already.

Well said!  I am trying to learn EoC (f2p) now, but keep finding out things that make me not want to play.  For example, the fact that almost all the damage comes from the weapon stats, so playing F2p it looks like I can't hit much higher with a rune weapon at 99 str, then anyone else at a much lower str level.  In EoC the gear seems to matter so much more than stats.  Please correct me if I am wrong, because I don't understand EoC very well.
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Ts Stormrage on February 04, 2014, 07:28:30 AM
You're not wrong, but rest assured that only a few people actually like it...

Get this issue to be part of the feedback for the beta and who knows...
Title: Re: Legacy mode (old combat in RS3)
Post by: Ms Teatime on February 04, 2014, 05:46:56 PM
 :/