Why Runescape is Dying - His Lordship Speaks Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApaKgd-pE4#ws)
Thoughts?
Your probably right RS3 is the future of Runescape, but i doubt jagex will do anything to change it no matter how many videos you make explaining your thoughts.
Honestly what they should do is once you step into the wilderness, eoc mode is disabled and it is converted back to the old combat system + do monthly poles similar to 07 which update and improve the wilderness/pvp.
I like what your doing here but honestly i don't think it will do anything and you will probably just get flamed from haters.
havent watched yet cos im at uni, but is runescape as a whole actually dying? I don't think so
Quote from: Mojohaza1 on November 28, 2013, 11:51:14 PM
havent watched yet cos im at uni, but is runescape as a whole actually dying? I don't think so
It definitely is, as several J-Mods told me at Runefest.
Quote from: Flames377 on November 28, 2013, 11:47:06 PM
Your probably right RS3 is the future of Runescape, but i doubt jagex will do anything to change it no matter how many videos you make explaining your thoughts.
Honestly what they should do is once you step into the wilderness, eoc mode is disabled and it is converted back to the old combat system + do monthly poles similar to 07 which update and improve the wilderness/pvp.
I like what your doing here but honestly i don't think it will do anything and you will probably just get flamed from haters.
Will it really do nothing?
My Wilderness Bio has been circulated around Jagex.
Apparently it was the motivation behind Warbands.
Mod Pi took it on holiday to study it.
I think it doesn't hurt to try.
The greater crime is not to speak out.
Man this topic is depressing... But you're right though. This game is in a steep decline.
I had a conversation about this with Nightshade just the other night about this.
PvP will help RuneScape for sure but it will only keep people playing assuming they even start.
I think the real issue here is Jagex's incompetency to adapt RS to the modern gaming environment.
RS was growing massively in the "golden ages" because it was relevant to gaming at the time.
Now, in 2014, shit graphics... choppy, repetitive, unbalanced gameplay... browser game... all irrelevant.
Why play RuneScape when there are hundreds of alternatives? Truth is most people still play this for memory and friendship sake.
I truly believe the future of RuneScape is in mobile gaming. Jagex have already announced a tablet version but we need smartphones as well.
It has the simplicity (clicking, graphics) of an iPhone game with the appeal for all ages.
Games half as good get MILLIONS of players.
PvP fixes are necessary, I agree with you, but that won't bring in the next generation.
They need to extend their reach and why not but a little Scape in everyone's pocket?
You're right Randy... probably.
I'm no expert on the appeal of games in the industry - my specialty is limited to PKing so that's all I could talk about.
From an outsiders perspective who wants to come into a game knowing there's 26 skills each one taking on average 100 hours to complete (some more some less)... It would cool to try some PVP specific servers or something where you're given all 99 combat stats and the whole focus is on improving your PVP skills and having epic wars... Not that it would ever happen.
Quote from: Patty on November 29, 2013, 12:53:21 AM
From an outsiders perspective who wants to come into a game knowing there's 26 skills each one taking on average 100 hours to complete (some more some less)... It would cool to try some PVP specific servers or something where you're given all 99 combat stats and the whole focus is on improving your PVP skills and having epic wars... Not that it would ever happen.
Guild Wars
I posted that on Gene's thread a while back and got completely ignored lol
http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1587367-update-on-page-10-jagex-offers-an-olive-branch/page__st__20#entry15430255 (http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1587367-update-on-page-10-jagex-offers-an-olive-branch/page__st__20#entry15430255)
http://www.tip.it/runescape/times/view/1103-oh-grow-up (http://www.tip.it/runescape/times/view/1103-oh-grow-up)
The article that resulted from my discussion with Randy...
I don't think RS is dying (I haven't watched your vid yet at this point), but it will if nothing changes...
Going mobile with HTML5 etc is one of the things that'll save RS... RS2 will by then be played by only a relatively minute amount of people...
I really think it's too late, the large prospective player base that you are talking about I believe fall into the category of a) Are pissed off with Jagex and won't come back b) Tried 07 and forgot how long it takes to level or got pissed off due to lack of PKers c) Nostalgic players - the small percentage that may come back, but don't like change and want it to be the same as it was back in the day.
What I believe Jagex need to do is start from scratch with new low level players and work with them to encourage them into PVP and clans from low levels. Most people who would PK and are of a certain age have already heard of runescape and it's bad reputation so they are not likely to be drawn back. It's the new generation of young players that need to be encouraged in and drawn into PVP and clans. If Runescape was a business - it's time to rebrand!
Clans in 07 are guilty of the same thing. The majority of the players aren't 90+ or 100+ or are comfortable to jump through the old school clan membership hoops and activity levels. They don't have the time to level to join a clan and are wary of irc and offsite websites. They are low level players who PK individually or in small groups of friends. Perhaps we can keep PKing going by starting a larger clan community at the low end of the level spectrum and make it easy for them to join and be part of something?
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http://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1rofrg/why_runescape_is_dying/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1rofrg/why_runescape_is_dying/)
Why do we have to worry about runescape dying, lets make the most of it until it dies. And i think the game Runescape is done, if i could say something to Mod Mark or whoever is in charge would be to let the game go and try to create a new game, it feels as if runescape is worn out, we need something brand new.
Quote from: Prazo on November 29, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Why do we have to worry about runescape dying, lets make the most of it until it dies. And i think the game Runescape is done, if i could say something to Mod Mark or whoever is in charge would be to let the game go and try to create a new game, it feels as if runescape is worn out, we need something brand new.
Jagex have created lots of new games already, they just haven't been very successful.
Playing Guild Wars 2 currently. Having WvW 70vs70 zerg fights makes me miss the old clan world :<
Quote from: Prazo on November 29, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Why do we have to worry about runescape dying, lets make the most of it until it dies. And i think the game Runescape is done, if i could say something to Mod Mark or whoever is in charge would be to let the game go and try to create a new game, it feels as if runescape is worn out, we need something brand new.
I did answer that... if something is good, why not try to keep it going rather than throw in the towel so easily?
The gaming industry has definitely changed but Jagex is missing out on a lot of potential customers I agree. Most games to cater towards player vs player.
Make a new skill that is only trainable in the wilderness.
You have to go deeper into the wilderness to train it at higher levels.
That'll show those completionist cape skillers ##
Quote from: Elyxiatic on November 30, 2013, 05:41:17 AM
Make a new skill that is only trainable in the wilderness.
You have to go deeper into the wilderness to train it at higher levels.
That'll show those completionist cape skillers ##
Sounds like a good way to make a lot of people mad :D
Quote from: Mojohaza1 on November 30, 2013, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: Elyxiatic on November 30, 2013, 05:41:17 AM
Make a new skill that is only trainable in the wilderness.
You have to go deeper into the wilderness to train it at higher levels.
That'll show those completionist cape skillers ##
Sounds like a good way to make a lot of people mad :D
most people like this
Or, make a new task book in the wilderness. Involves people to use it for Comp requirements too.
That has already been suggested in the appendix.
Jagex has that idea and many others.
Mod Mark is stopping them from doing anything with it.
Quote from: His Lordship on December 01, 2013, 02:07:09 AM
That has already been suggested in the appendix.
Jagex has that idea and many others.
Mod Mark is stopping them from doing anything with it.
mod mark only cares about runescape lore.
true story :3
A great video; watched all of it.
Sadly I don't think RuneScape will ever recover. The complexity behind the eoc/rs3 and jagex's indifference to their userbase really was the final nail in the coffin. Jagex is too proud to let go of eoc. Whelp, at least they still have 1 month to redeem themselves and prove that this year really is the year of the players.
I actually like EOC.
LOLINB4IGETLYNCHED
EoC for PVM is pretty decent.
Quote from: His Lordship on December 01, 2013, 03:51:22 PM
EoC for PVM is pretty decent.
it is, but with they did ruin pvp with the toggle and everything. the combat system would be pretty decent if they took some of the ideas from that runefest video and used them.
Your ideas are well thought out and the video was amazing. Seeing that you as the leader of this clan has so much pride in rs and pvp is just amazing. Which is the reason im on these forums posting on this topic and will be a future OSRS member. Hopefully one day Jagex will take your ideas and put them to use.
Hopefully they listen and bring back pking because I do want to stat in that community.
EOC is actually hurting the game more than helping. Yeah its a change of style in fighting but they went way to far with it. I don't know if Jagex actually took time to stop and think about what they were doing when they launched this update.
Now that were stuck with the EOC we must atleast try to save PKing (the Wilderness). PVM has been getting way to much attention to the point were the PVMers feel sorry for the PKers. PKing was a main part of Runescape and it seems like it is totally dead. Jagex needs to work out plans, and your Wilderness bio has a lot to offer.
Good work, Happy New Year!
It's refreshing that someone is actually trying to do something about whats going on with Runescape.
The game community has completely diminished, the generation that played before and the generation that plays now is completltly different. Without the great community the game had years ago the game is just less appealing.
The company itself has changed from giving a decent game with great community to money hoarders. Of course a company needs money to survive but as soon as I log onto F2P I see at least 6 different ways Jagex want's someone to subscribe. It's sickening to see a subscribe button on the left of the screen. It can't be helped really.
Quote from: Manacoid on January 04, 2014, 09:26:23 PM
It's refreshing that someone is actually trying to do something about whats going on with Runescape.
The game community has completely diminished, the generation that played before and the generation that plays now is completltly different. Without the great community the game had years ago the game is just less appealing.
The company itself has changed from giving a decent game with great community to money hoarders. Of course a company needs money to survive but as soon as I log onto F2P I see at least 6 different ways Jagex want's someone to subscribe. It's sickening to see a subscribe button on the left of the screen. It can't be helped really.
They became more and more money hoarding once Andrew, Paul and co. began selling their shares to venture capital companies. The money from which, it would appear, has been invested in games such as MechScape (scrapped), Stellar Dawn (permanent hiatus), 8realms (scrapped), FunOrb (discontinued) and their publishing attempt with War of Legends (no game updates in almost a year). Their current endeavour with Hasbro in Transformers Universe is already massively delayed, I'm half expecting that to be scrapped or flop.
The investors must see this, and I doubt they're happy. They will be forcing Jagex to milk the cash cow of RuneScape to get a return on their investment. That's how I see it anyway.
Quote from: His Lordship on November 28, 2013, 11:20:59 PM
Why Runescape is Dying - His Lordship Speaks Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApaKgd-pE4#ws)
Thoughts?
Damn Lordy, i've been back for 2 weeks for first time since 06 and your SPOT ON. Wtf are all these bars of Adrenaline etc! Get rid, i don't want this junk, i want simpler combat, not the 5000 buttons i currently have, atm i wouldn't dare going into the Wilderness Pking! Make it simpler i'll be on more, and all the oldies will return/you'll drive newer players into staying as PVP is THE way forward.
All in All great video, and i do like this Rs3 i do, however like you said simplfy the combat system and make the wild simple again and it'll make the game much MUCH better.
If they did a legitimate poll like the one for 07 servers, but it was to take eoc out of rs3, and it required like 5M member accounts to vote for it, I bet it would reach that goal. The only major problem Jagex has with it is the time they invested in eoc. It would require a lot of back tracking to make all the new current top tier weapons be balanced in the old combat system. Tons of stats and special attacks would have to be made.