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Title: Calculus help
Post by: Wayshow on May 20, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
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Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Armybuilder on May 20, 2012, 02:44:07 PM
Too advanced for me. Thats Tom you should be asking
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Wayshow on May 20, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
I can pretty much do everything on the calculus textbook....except sequences, series. The convergence question is just wtf lol
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Taibz on May 20, 2012, 02:57:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/r1FPf.png)
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Mojo on May 20, 2012, 04:11:02 PM
I probably could have done this last year but my brain has now forgotten most of A-Level maths.
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Keith on May 20, 2012, 06:33:57 PM
screw math youll never use it
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Wayshow on May 20, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: Keith on May 20, 2012, 06:33:57 PM
screw math youll never use it
i need it to graduate :@
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Taibz on May 21, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
I love how clean your paper is, my papers are always full of drawings and shit lol  :nyan:
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Elyxiatic on May 21, 2012, 11:58:19 PM
This isn't technically right, but I know where it converges.
There is probably a way to "show" it converges, I'm just assuming it does.

Q11a)

a(n) = sqrt (3 + a(n-1))
a(n+1) = sqrt( 3 + sqrt (a(n))

a(n+1) = sqrt (3 + sqrt (3 + a(n-1)))

a(n+1) - a(n) = sqrt (3 + sqrt(3 + a(n-1))) - sqrt (3 + a(n-1))

If we assume series converges, a(n+1) - a(n) = 0

sqrt(3 + a(n-1)) = sqrt(3 + sqrt(3 + a(n-1)))

Square both sides

3 + a(n-1) = 3 + sqrt (3 + a(n-1)

a(n-1) = sqrt (3 + a(n-1))

Square again

a(n-1)^2 = 3 + a(n-1)

a(n-1)^2 - a(n-1) -3 = 0

a(n-1) = 2.302775637

Thats where your series converges.

What I've done is incorrect though, I find a(n-1) instead of a(n).
Unless we assume a(n-1) = a(n). But then I just assumed convergence instead of proving it.
I know it involves subtracting something like a(n+1) away from a(n) and showing it equals something.

On a side note, nobody uses this stuff in the real world anyway.
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Keith on May 22, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
Quote from: Elyxiatic on May 21, 2012, 11:58:19 PM
This isn't technically right, but I know where it converges.
There is probably a way to "show" it converges, I'm just assuming it does.

Q11a)

a(n) = sqrt (3 + a(n-1))
a(n+1) = sqrt( 3 + sqrt (a(n))

a(n+1) = sqrt (3 + sqrt (3 + a(n-1)))

a(n+1) - a(n) = sqrt (3 + sqrt(3 + a(n-1))) - sqrt (3 + a(n-1))

If we assume series converges, a(n+1) - a(n) = 0

sqrt(3 + a(n-1)) = sqrt(3 + sqrt(3 + a(n-1)))

Square both sides

3 + a(n-1) = 3 + sqrt (3 + a(n-1)

a(n-1) = sqrt (3 + a(n-1))

Square again

a(n-1)^2 = 3 + a(n-1)

a(n-1)^2 - a(n-1) -3 = 0

a(n-1) = 2.302775637

Thats where your series converges.

What I've done is incorrect though, I find a(n-1) instead of a(n).
Unless we assume a(n-1) = a(n). But then I just assumed convergence instead of proving it.
I know it involves subtracting something like a(n+1) away from a(n) and showing it equals something.

On a side note, nobody uses this stuff in the real world anyway.

If you got a(n-1)
and need a(n)
add 1  -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^ -.^
lol i smart cuz its not wrong at all
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: JC on May 22, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
lol you maths nerds ##
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Wayshow on May 22, 2012, 08:11:26 AM
Quote from: Elyxiatic on May 21, 2012, 11:58:19 PM
This isn't technically right, but I know where it converges.
There is probably a way to "show" it converges, I'm just assuming it does.

Q11a)

a(n) = sqrt (3 + a(n-1))
a(n+1) = sqrt( 3 + sqrt (a(n))

a(n+1) = sqrt (3 + sqrt (3 + a(n-1)))

a(n+1) - a(n) = sqrt (3 + sqrt(3 + a(n-1))) - sqrt (3 + a(n-1))

If we assume series converges, a(n+1) - a(n) = 0

sqrt(3 + a(n-1)) = sqrt(3 + sqrt(3 + a(n-1)))

Square both sides

3 + a(n-1) = 3 + sqrt (3 + a(n-1)

a(n-1) = sqrt (3 + a(n-1))

Square again

a(n-1)^2 = 3 + a(n-1)

a(n-1)^2 - a(n-1) -3 = 0

a(n-1) = 2.302775637

Thats where your series converges.

What I've done is incorrect though, I find a(n-1) instead of a(n).
Unless we assume a(n-1) = a(n). But then I just assumed convergence instead of proving it.
I know it involves subtracting something like a(n+1) away from a(n) and showing it equals something.

On a side note, nobody uses this stuff in the real world anyway.
Ty for trying though :3
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Wayshow on May 22, 2012, 08:12:52 AM
And.... I finished #10. Yay
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Raging Mage2 on May 22, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
school is only useful for 6 months after it ends :3
Title: Re: Calculus help
Post by: Keith on May 22, 2012, 04:05:33 PM
Screw the rules drop out while you're ahead wayshow, YOU ALREADY GOT INTO COLLEGE