we could be starvin 

we could be homeless 

we could be broke 



????
profit!

DO IT ALREADY

I'd have to go to the people to actually draft it. First a statistician...I have my old AP Stats teacher from HS in mind. And my computer science major friends maybe. Well I'm excited, keep the discussion going and what other quantifiable variables can you factor in? Good chance to make this into something big...contribute!

Quote from: Al on October 13, 2012, 08:44:56 pm

Quote from: Panda|Vulcan on October 13, 2012, 12:54:58 pm

1. you can't rank up anymore - ranking means nothing anyway when there is barely a top 3
2. the "RAW rankings" is now an opinion-based sticky topic and not organized anymore - That's because RAW was a failure.
3. top clans like VR and EoS (sadly, I'm probably missing some) DDoS attacks to win wars, but still get ranked high - We know we killed the clan world. Most clans DDoS now.

Got something to say?

I think he just said it.

Misread,

Moving on, what do you guys think appropriate and measureable variables for the equation?

K...let me reiterate. I don't think you guys are getting the point lol. I didn't bring this up to suggest this for recruiting. Or to show off how well we are at whatever category. This is just a thought of how clans can be measured on a rating of F to A+ or 1-10.

Why is this important? Because ever since the organized RAW (for those of you that don't know, Rank According to Warring on RSC) rankings fell off the map, the clan world has diminished. I'm not saying the two correlate, but has anyone thought about this? What if people don't want to join warring clans because...

1. you can't rank up anymore
2. the "RAW rankings" is now an opinion-based sticky topic and not organized anymore
3. top clans like VR and EoS (sadly, I'm probably missing some) DDoS attacks to win wars, but still get ranked high

This is bringing in other subjects, but why should the clan world allow cheaters to be the best*? The number of clans that follow no-NH principles have winded down to shit, and we're one of the last clans to follow a code. I'm afraid that this trend will continue and clans will continue to flame, flame-bait, argue, DDoS, hack, troll, and more. Maybe the wilderness isn't the only reason why the PVP clan world is diminishing?

I wasn't exactly around clanning in the RSC world (the "outside" or "off-site" clan world as I call it) when these principles were a lot more common, but judging from the old-school war videos you can tell it was a lot more cleaner and enjoyable. Compare that clan world to the clan world today. Does VR really deserve that plaque in Edgeville bank for the combat cup? What about the clan (don't quite remember) that attacked first even though they got south in the J-cup? These are just a few examples of where honor and code can be applied. I'm sure there's more.

The RAW rank was something that I actually factored into my decision to join. WG -- not too high because I didn't want to be an unknown speck in a 100+ man powerhouse clan. Back when it was still intact, I joined right after WG beat the Crimson Raiders? for their RAW rank. It was a big deal. It motivated me to contribute by working on melee, prayer, ranged, mage, and way more. It had to be done because I wanted to help in war. I wanted to help the clan rise because the RAW rankings was official and widely accepted in the clan world. People had faith in those rankings and I felt like it reflected our clan status as well. What happened to that? Why can't we have ranks again?

I'm proposing that we should create a new, comprehensive ranking methodology that could erase any doubts or bias or whatever it may be that crushed the RAW rankings in the first place. Create a mathematical equation and transcribe it into a computer program that you could punch numbers into to automate it. When you bring in statistics and mathematics into real life, yes it can be inaccurate. If you mess up one part of an equation, you won't solve it. But if we tweak the variables, the categories, eliminate bias, just everything that wasn't in the rankings before, we could get a "more-perfect" rating and rank of a clan.

The only rankings I know of that used: Demoniknights (based on site clicks), RAW (only based on warring), Jagex Cup (based on the category you compete for), or the RuneScape Clan Rankings (just facepalm..lol). From my understanding many Scapers generally choose clans by a few types. One is for competition (warring), second one is community (a friend's clan or just a place to socialize), third maybe to benefit (a skilling clan or questing clan). Obviously this is a ranking system, so we would fall under the competition category. Today's Scapers have almost nothing.

With that being said...this is my closing statement. All we have to do is get it out there. Get it accepted, make it known. The objective is to make all Scapers strive to clan again. The clan world didn't die, RuneScape didn't die, Jagex didn't kill the game. Maybe it's just that Scapers aren't motivated anymore to clan again. With no set system of ranking, clans slinging shit at each other...would you expect them to?

Tried to get my thoughts down as quick as possible and it's very late...I hope you guys get the idea.

So as some of you may know I've been playing this game called NCAA (national collegiate athletic association) Football 13. Football as in American football or gridiron for some of you. On it there's this game mode where you can take an existing team such as Stanford or USC or whatever school and bring them to a championship by recruiting. During the recruiting process, you have a database of players to call and you get a limited amount of time to "call" prospects. You choose various topics to try to garner their interest, make promises such as giving them solid playing time, winning the national championship, the conference championship, many other things. You can "choose a pitch," which is basically trying to find what they are interested in in a football program and school, which includes tradition, coach prestige, coach stability (how long his contract is for and is his position at the school stable), academic prestige, championship contender, television exposure, campus lifestyle, playing style, proximity to home.

Think how we could use a rating system for WG or the RuneScape clan world.

proximity = timezone
playing style = what does the clan focus on?
coach stability = is the leader stable and there to stay?
championship contender = Jagex Cup contender
tradition = how long has the clan been around, what have they contributed to the clan world, their history
television exposure = public relations, what reputation they have in the clan world
coach prestige = what can the leader(s) bring or benefit/teach you?
playing time = what can you bring to the clan?


Post your thoughts and opinions. Could we use a ranking system like this? Other categories people look for in a clan?

It's ok, no attendance points for you.

Gz.

Already accepted him a while after he applied. Wanted to leave it open for replies.

Congratulations!

Welcome Roderick! Whenever you're ready hop into our IRC channel for an interview.

Talked to him today. I interviewed Daniel and was ready to accept him, but at the end he told me he was still debating on whether to stay in his friend's clan or not. Gave it a few days, and today he told me he would be saying.

Sucks to see you go, but I hope you consider it in the future! Best.

What's the history with Jagex changing drop rates? Do they release it to the public?

Been playing NCAA 13 on Xbox since I got it last Friday.

Anybody watch college football?

Ryan told me last night he was at Bandos for about 5 hours, 140? KC and got nothing but a DDS and shard.