Quote from: Josheh on October 09, 2013, 10:17:20 am

Am 6 LOL.

and girls are not your thing, either.

oh shit this is awks LOL.

Attackon titan

Hello and welcome back to the community!

At the moment you need 1750 to be accepted into SG officially but feel free to hang out in IRC + CC as if you were a member already

Been microsoft loyal since Xbox original. Swapping to PS4.

All this made me feel was a hunger for fried rice.

Was on Reddit, saw this, have a read, it could help you out.

So with the recent changes to magic I decided to run some trials to see which spell I ought to be using. I tested these spells on the combat academy training dummies, and looked at damage numbers of Combust as well as critical damage ranges with Concentrated Blast. What I found is rather baffling.

First up were the Surges. Since these are all above level 80, I expected the damage of each to be reduced to level 80 (due to my Virtus Wand/Book) They were all reduced to the same number, but oddly they do less than the Wave spells. (266 bleed damage with combust, middle-1300's criticals on average with concentrated blast)

Even stranger, the damage scaling with Waves was the opposite of what one might expect. Air Wave (283 Combust, mid-1400's crit average) did both more bleed damage and had higher criticals than Water Wave, Water hit harder than Earth, and so on.
Lower tier spells seemed to scale normally.
I repeated the trials with a Grifolic Wand/Orb, and experienced the same results, just with the tier shifted down one. (Waves were overreduced, Blast spell damage was reversed, etc)
So it seems that:

1) Spells above your weapon's level are overnerfed, so don't use them.
2) Spells of the tier just below your weapon are backwards, so use the closest air spell below your weapon to maximize damage output.

Keep in mind that this is only with the standard spellbook using wands/book combos. If anyone has a chaotic staff and would be willing to test this, or would like to test ancients, that'd be great.

Part 2:

Virtus adds 15 damage to a staff, and 23 damage to wand/book of equal tier. Sheet #2 shows that damage across spellbooks is not consistent and that there is a spike near level 60.
It's pretty clear whoever was in charge of rebalancing magic damage didn't even look at their formula.

Edit2:For Comparison:

Melee level 80 gear hits 270-273 with dismember, minimum. [Claws/Maul]
Range hits 260 with frag shot using Royal/CCBs with royal or asc bolts
Using full Virtus wand/book, combust minimums:


- All surges/barrages: 289
- Air wave: 306
- Earth Wave: 298
- Fire Wave: 294
- Blood/Ice Blitz: 289
- Rock Blitz: 293
- Gale Blitz: 295
- With CS/Virtus:

- All Surges/Waves/Barrages/Blitzes hit 281
- 268 Air burst (level 62)
- 272 Rock burst (level 64)
- 279 Blood burst (level 68)

- 281 Ice burst (level 70)



Why is damage capped at 70 for level 80 weapons, Jagex?

Sell all of your barrows tbh XD, inb4 lvl 90 gear.

who is nh????? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Patrick_Harris

Neil Patrick Harris (NH for short) is a beloved actor who has featured in such shows as "How I met your mother" and "Doogie Howser M.D".

This is your one time free pass. From now on you must refer to this man as either NH or He who shall not be named.

Cya!

Ah ya so my name is actually yoyoyowatsupBRO, and currently trying to switch over to OCE since i didn't know we had it

lolnoooooooooooob.

Hey man, pumped to see another new member. That defence level gonna get you rocked in our PvM trips but its Ok!

Be ready for lots of fun this month with the new content JaGeX is releasing.

My little Pony: Friendship is Magic 

Nah thats just lame bro. 

yeah, download mIRC or swift kit and use the IRC app through that, I've been waiting to interview you. Pm any half op thats online.