Help me buy/build a computer

[Keith]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/68Y36h

That's the part list I have so far but I don't want to spend as much as I have listed on there but Idk where I should make cuts. Ideally I wanna be able to play wow on ultra when legion comes out and have it be able to handle NXT on RS as well. I'll probably get into fallout 4 and those kinda games too once I have the equipment to handle it. pls help, Ideally spend less than $1100 for everything and close to $850 for everything that isnt the computer/keyboard. pls help

also fyi i have no clue what im doing so if im doing something stupid let me know

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[Mojo]

Will a wild @JC appear?

[PineappleTom]

www.apple.com

[Keith]

www.apple.com

coming from a macbook pro that i've had for 5 years, I like them but I want something with a little more power for the money

[Keith]

after further evaluation I think this is going to be what I get: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/imkeith/saved/LLzQzy

[JC]

Will a wild @JC appear?

I was on holiday ##

I've kinda been out of the loop a little recently so I'm not entirely sure what the requirements for "RS NXT" are, but based on the WoW Legion requirements either of the specifications proposed should be fine.

A couple of thoughts though:

- SSD size:  WoW legion needs 45GB so that'll mean on a 120GB SSD you're really going to be pressed for space with an OS' etc.  Go for a 250GB at least
- Hard Drive:  Do you actually need one as well? do you have movies & music that you hold locally, or do you just use netflix/spotify etc?
- CPU:  The one chosen is two generations old now, assume you chose it for cost reasons?  If it's significantly cheaper, go for it, but a 6000 series chip/motherboard would be better
- Motherboard:  It's kinda shitty, only two ram slots & no real room to add expansion cards later (eg. WiFi), this seems better: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3ha  or this if you're happy with full ATX: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97anniversary

Just my initial thoughts anyway, it looks like a good rig for not much money - keep in mind last I saw ATI drivers still suck balls, so it might still be worth sacrificing performance and going for the nvidia 970 anyway :3

[Keith]

Will a wild @JC appear?

I was on holiday ##

I've kinda been out of the loop a little recently so I'm not entirely sure what the requirements for "RS NXT" are, but based on the WoW Legion requirements either of the specifications proposed should be fine.

A couple of thoughts though:

- SSD size:  WoW legion needs 45GB so that'll mean on a 120GB SSD you're really going to be pressed for space with an OS' etc.  Go for a 250GB at least
- Hard Drive:  Do you actually need one as well? do you have movies & music that you hold locally, or do you just use netflix/spotify etc?
- CPU:  The one chosen is two generations old now, assume you chose it for cost reasons?  If it's significantly cheaper, go for it, but a 6000 series chip/motherboard would be better
- Motherboard:  It's kinda shitty, only two ram slots & no real room to add expansion cards later (eg. WiFi), this seems better: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3ha  or this if you're happy with full ATX: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97anniversary

Just my initial thoughts anyway, it looks like a good rig for not much money - keep in mind last I saw ATI drivers still suck balls, so it might still be worth sacrificing performance and going for the nvidia 970 anyway :3

-Hmm on the SSD/Hard drive point: on my current computer I have 336GB out of 500GB available (as well as having an external harddrive if I need to get rid of some space, so I suppose you're right in that I probably don't need both. I could use the extra money from not having a hard drive to expand the SSD a little bit.
-As far as the CPU goes I don't know how to tell how many generations old they are but I think I made an upgrade by using that first mobo you sent- there was a combo package that saved a little bit.
-I really don't know my approach to the video cards, I have some people saying that the 390 is better and others saying the 970 is better and I don't understand why haha.

Here's what I updated it to based on what you said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kzfh4D
And here's that same build but with a 970 instead and a little less wattage:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CQdxnQ

Of course they turn out to be the exact same price to the cent

[JC]

Will a wild @JC appear?

I was on holiday ##

I've kinda been out of the loop a little recently so I'm not entirely sure what the requirements for "RS NXT" are, but based on the WoW Legion requirements either of the specifications proposed should be fine.

A couple of thoughts though:

- SSD size:  WoW legion needs 45GB so that'll mean on a 120GB SSD you're really going to be pressed for space with an OS' etc.  Go for a 250GB at least
- Hard Drive:  Do you actually need one as well? do you have movies & music that you hold locally, or do you just use netflix/spotify etc?
- CPU:  The one chosen is two generations old now, assume you chose it for cost reasons?  If it's significantly cheaper, go for it, but a 6000 series chip/motherboard would be better
- Motherboard:  It's kinda shitty, only two ram slots & no real room to add expansion cards later (eg. WiFi), this seems better: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3ha  or this if you're happy with full ATX: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97anniversary

Just my initial thoughts anyway, it looks like a good rig for not much money - keep in mind last I saw ATI drivers still suck balls, so it might still be worth sacrificing performance and going for the nvidia 970 anyway :3

-Hmm on the SSD/Hard drive point: on my current computer I have 336GB out of 500GB available (as well as having an external harddrive if I need to get rid of some space, so I suppose you're right in that I probably don't need both. I could use the extra money from not having a hard drive to expand the SSD a little bit.
-As far as the CPU goes I don't know how to tell how many generations old they are but I think I made an upgrade by using that first mobo you sent- there was a combo package that saved a little bit.
-I really don't know my approach to the video cards, I have some people saying that the 390 is better and others saying the 970 is better and I don't understand why haha.

Here's what I updated it to based on what you said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kzfh4D
And here's that same build but with a 970 instead and a little less wattage:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CQdxnQ

Of course they turn out to be the exact same price to the cent

With regard to the CPU - understanding the numbers that make it up can be a little tricky, but in simple terms this is basically what the numbers mean:

"i3/i5/i7" Gives a general indicator of the performance.  Generally (but not always), most i3's are dual core with Hyperthreading, most i5's are Quad Core, most i7's are Quad Core or more, with Hyperthreading

"-nxxx (eg. -4xxx)" This gives the generation of the CPU, the current generation is 5 and 6 (they were both released together in mid 2015).  In most situations, a newer generation CPU is faster even when they may have the same speed (eg. a gen 6 @ 3.4Ghz is normally faster than a gen 4 @ 3.4Ghz). 

"-xnnn (eg. -x590)" indicates the relative performance of that CPU, within it's class (eg. i5), higher is typically better


Just looking at some benchmarks, the i5-4590 looks like it still is a good choice and there's not a huge performance gain from going to the latest gen chips. 


With regard to the Graphics Cards, it tends to be a personal preference kind of thing.  I have had bad luck in the past with ATI cards (Driver issues as above) so I generally don't recommend them as a result.  Either the 390 or 970 will be great for what you want, if it was me I'd personally go for the second option.

Cheers,

JC

[Keith]

Thanks buddy, appreciate it - I found a 970 for $280ish so that price reduction is gonna allow me to get at least a i5-6500 and then i also have to spend a little extra on the motherboard to deal with it but that's alright, ends up being $7 more for a pretty significant upgrade!

Ended up getting an i5-6600, a kinda crappy mobo w/2 ram slots but im getting 8gb cards so 8gb for now and 16 down the road is cool with me, the 970 i got came with some $20 adapter of some kind for free, maybe i'll need it someday who knows, also came with a free game. I also ended up with ddr4-2400 ram lol, everything seems to be all compatible and ended up being a fair amount of upgrades for only $12 more total.