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Rachellove9:

The problem is they have a method for keeping scores on the American people.
If your score is high maybe because you visited a place that tells you how to prepare for a nature disaster, how to make homemade medicine or some other thing they deem dangerous.  It puts you at higher risk to be discriminated against.  Look at the recent IRS scandals that are going on now in usa.  The government should not be discriminating on its own citizens. 

This Babylon:

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

this is the problem.

Owen:


--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:01:02 am ---the point is, is basically what Rachel said, its almost like they are more concerned with the average citizen than a extremest muslim. They seem to want to take away the ability for the average man to defend himself in our nation currently, which is not the point. The point of our second amendment is so that we can defend ourselves against any foreign nation/ group bent on doing ill will to them, and that's exactly what is happening right now. I guarantee that incident with the machete would not happen in America, its like the Admiral Yamamoto once said when asked why he did not invade during pearl harbor, considering he was so close to doing so already "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". Generally speaking, most people are not concerned with global affairs, so they look through a small lens. They only see gangbangers and colombine, ignoring the principles that our nation was founded on, and the reasoning behind giving citizens the right to own a firearm. The fact remains that they gave the right to the people so they could be wolves, not sheep. Disarming us takes that away.

also, about the drug dealer thing, that is great that they are making progress, but they really should focus manpower in stopping the druglords, and destroying the infrastructure used to transport drugs into the country.

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Sure is peaceful over here:

World map of the Global Peace Index 2011. Countries appearing more green are ranked as more peaceful, countries appearing more red are ranked as less peaceful.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_index

This Babylon:


--- Quote from: Owen on June 10, 2013, 01:10:37 am ---
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:01:02 am ---the point is, is basically what Rachel said, its almost like they are more concerned with the average citizen than a extremest muslim. They seem to want to take away the ability for the average man to defend himself in our nation currently, which is not the point. The point of our second amendment is so that we can defend ourselves against any foreign nation/ group bent on doing ill will to them, and that's exactly what is happening right now. I guarantee that incident with the machete would not happen in America, its like the Admiral Yamamoto once said when asked why he did not invade during pearl harbor, considering he was so close to doing so already "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". Generally speaking, most people are not concerned with global affairs, so they look through a small lens. They only see gangbangers and colombine, ignoring the principles that our nation was founded on, and the reasoning behind giving citizens the right to own a firearm. The fact remains that they gave the right to the people so they could be wolves, not sheep. Disarming us takes that away.

also, about the drug dealer thing, that is great that they are making progress, but they really should focus manpower in stopping the druglords, and destroying the infrastructure used to transport drugs into the country.

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Sure is peaceful over here:

World map of the Global Peace Index 2011. Countries appearing more green are ranked as more peaceful, countries appearing more red are ranked as less peaceful.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_index

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showing two year old studies doesn't change the validity of the arguement.

Owen:


--- Quote from: Rachellove9 on June 10, 2013, 01:04:10 am ---The problem is they have a method for keeping scores on the American people.
If your score is high maybe because you visited a place that tells you how to prepare for a nature disaster, how to make homemade medicine or some other thing they deem dangerous.  It puts you at higher risk to be discriminated against.

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[citation needed]


--- Quote ---The government should not be discriminating on its own citizens.
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Nah, they should be out discriminating against those muslims in afghanistan and iran, right?

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