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Concerning recent discoveries about the US government
Owen:
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--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:01:02 am ---the point is, is basically what Rachel said, its almost like they are more concerned with the average citizen than a extremest muslim. They seem to want to take away the ability for the average man to defend himself in our nation currently, which is not the point. The point of our second amendment is so that we can defend ourselves against any foreign nation/ group bent on doing ill will to them, and that's exactly what is happening right now. I guarantee that incident with the machete would not happen in America, its like the Admiral Yamamoto once said when asked why he did not invade during pearl harbor, considering he was so close to doing so already "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". Generally speaking, most people are not concerned with global affairs, so they look through a small lens. They only see gangbangers and colombine, ignoring the principles that our nation was founded on, and the reasoning behind giving citizens the right to own a firearm. The fact remains that they gave the right to the people so they could be wolves, not sheep. Disarming us takes that away.
also, about the drug dealer thing, that is great that they are making progress, but they really should focus manpower in stopping the druglords, and destroying the infrastructure used to transport drugs into the country.
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Sure is peaceful over here:
World map of the Global Peace Index 2011. Countries appearing more green are ranked as more peaceful, countries appearing more red are ranked as less peaceful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_index
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showing two year old studies doesn't change the validity of the arguement.
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Scroll down the wiki page where it has the 2012 scores, the 2013 one obviously hasn't been release yet.
UK ranked 29th. USA ranked 88th.
Rachellove9:
Remember Owen that although the USA is one country, we have 50 states.
Most of them are larger than UK.
If they had put the map to states and not countries, you would see we have a lot of states that are very peace loving.
This Babylon:
--- Quote from: Owen on June 10, 2013, 01:13:26 am ---
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:11:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Owen on June 10, 2013, 01:10:37 am ---
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:01:02 am ---the point is, is basically what Rachel said, its almost like they are more concerned with the average citizen than a extremest muslim. They seem to want to take away the ability for the average man to defend himself in our nation currently, which is not the point. The point of our second amendment is so that we can defend ourselves against any foreign nation/ group bent on doing ill will to them, and that's exactly what is happening right now. I guarantee that incident with the machete would not happen in America, its like the Admiral Yamamoto once said when asked why he did not invade during pearl harbor, considering he was so close to doing so already "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". Generally speaking, most people are not concerned with global affairs, so they look through a small lens. They only see gangbangers and colombine, ignoring the principles that our nation was founded on, and the reasoning behind giving citizens the right to own a firearm. The fact remains that they gave the right to the people so they could be wolves, not sheep. Disarming us takes that away.
also, about the drug dealer thing, that is great that they are making progress, but they really should focus manpower in stopping the druglords, and destroying the infrastructure used to transport drugs into the country.
--- End quote ---
Sure is peaceful over here:
World map of the Global Peace Index 2011. Countries appearing more green are ranked as more peaceful, countries appearing more red are ranked as less peaceful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_index
--- End quote ---
showing two year old studies doesn't change the validity of the arguement.
--- End quote ---
Scroll down the wiki page where it has the 2012 scores, the 2013 one obviously hasn't been release yet.
UK ranked 29th. USA ranked 88th.
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exactly the problem.
Does it not concern you that a muslim extremist hacked a man to death on your countries soil? What if that would have been a relative, or a friend.
Anyways, we are off topic. Back to the recent discoveries about the us gov.
Owen:
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:17:12 am ---
--- Quote from: Owen on June 10, 2013, 01:13:26 am ---
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:11:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Owen on June 10, 2013, 01:10:37 am ---
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 10, 2013, 01:01:02 am ---the point is, is basically what Rachel said, its almost like they are more concerned with the average citizen than a extremest muslim. They seem to want to take away the ability for the average man to defend himself in our nation currently, which is not the point. The point of our second amendment is so that we can defend ourselves against any foreign nation/ group bent on doing ill will to them, and that's exactly what is happening right now. I guarantee that incident with the machete would not happen in America, its like the Admiral Yamamoto once said when asked why he did not invade during pearl harbor, considering he was so close to doing so already "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". Generally speaking, most people are not concerned with global affairs, so they look through a small lens. They only see gangbangers and colombine, ignoring the principles that our nation was founded on, and the reasoning behind giving citizens the right to own a firearm. The fact remains that they gave the right to the people so they could be wolves, not sheep. Disarming us takes that away.
also, about the drug dealer thing, that is great that they are making progress, but they really should focus manpower in stopping the druglords, and destroying the infrastructure used to transport drugs into the country.
--- End quote ---
Sure is peaceful over here:
World map of the Global Peace Index 2011. Countries appearing more green are ranked as more peaceful, countries appearing more red are ranked as less peaceful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_index
--- End quote ---
showing two year old studies doesn't change the validity of the arguement.
--- End quote ---
Scroll down the wiki page where it has the 2012 scores, the 2013 one obviously hasn't been release yet.
UK ranked 29th. USA ranked 88th.
--- End quote ---
exactly the problem.
Does it not concern you that a muslim extremist hacked a man to death on your countries soil? What if that would have been a relative, or a friend.
Anyways, we are off topic. Back to the recent discoveries about the us gov.
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Of course it concerns me, but saying that you wouldn't have crimes like that in the USA is downright ignorance.
Owen:
--- Quote from: Rachellove9 on June 10, 2013, 01:14:09 am ---Remember Owen that although the USA is one country, we have 50 states.
Most of them are larger than UK.
If they had put the map to states and not countries, you would see we have a lot of states that are very peace loving.
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Look at Europe as a whole, check out all that green.