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Concerning recent discoveries about the US government
Rachellove9:
I agree about that not being about theft alone.
Honestly people have been stealing for years.
The criminals will figure a way around this.
I think this is more of a way to quiet people to call out to others if they choose it would be better to block the calls.
They may not want pictures of certain types of things being shared either.
Pacman Syu:
--- Quote from: Rachellove9 on June 16, 2013, 01:13:33 am ---I agree about that not being about theft alone.
Honestly people have been stealing for years.
The criminals will figure a way around this.
I think this is more of a way to quiet people to call out to others if they choose it would be better to block the calls.
They may not want pictures of certain types of things being shared either.
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My libertarian views might be showing a little too clearly, but I think it's completely up to the people to protect themselves from phone theft. I don't expect the government to hold my hand for some < $500 object. In the scheme of things, that's an entirely miniscule amount. There's better ways to protect our stolen belongings anyway, like the Prey Project: http://preyproject.com/
[Note: this is a little side-tracked, but still related]
I consider myself more political than the average person, but I'm certainly no political genius. However, I believe there's something I've learned before many others do. That is that politics can help prevent problems, but is rarely the answer.
As long as there are people who are willing to act immorally, they will act immoral.
Taking away guns won't stop people from killing each other - only from killing each other with guns (though we know that could never be the case in the US anyway).
As soon as the government figures out one way to remove piracy, that method is already outdated.
People who will do what is wrong will have no problem breaking rules. Instead of focusing on banning and controlling everything, maybe we ought to just strive to be better people.
edit: BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN BE APATHETIC TOWARDS YOUR GOVERNMENT!
edit 2: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/305765-senators-skip-classified-briefing-on-nsa-snooping-to-catch-flights-home It's crap like this, folks.
This Babylon:
--- Quote from: Pacman Syu on June 16, 2013, 12:44:36 am ---Goodness! This is such a good discussion. Let's not start a flame war here, okay?
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Not starting shit, just pointing out the obvious fact that he is living in la la land about this.
edit: 420 POST do u evn blaze it fgt
Al:
--- Quote from: This Babylon on June 16, 2013, 01:52:07 am ---
--- Quote from: Pacman Syu on June 16, 2013, 12:44:36 am ---Goodness! This is such a good discussion. Let's not start a flame war here, okay?
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Not starting shit, just pointing out the obvious fact that he is living in la la land about this.
edit: 420 POST do u evn blaze it fgt
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Not sure why but that edit part made me lol.
Further discussion:
On if the government has a evil hidden agenda, there's hints here and there that makes it hard for me to believe they would conspire against the average citizen. There's always been some kind of act to lessen government secrecy, like the Freedom of Information Act (and just surfing through Wikipedia, others as well).
Remember Zero Dark Thirty? I know it's a movie, but take in point that these people work in offices, and regular people work there, all the "government" officials are all regular citizens just like I said, and I'm sure somebody, somewhere, somehow (bad) secrets would get leaked. Someone would say something. Somebody would know. Can you imagine what would happen if the American public found out? That right there just makes me think how absurd it is to say our president is a Hitler, the government is taking powers away from us average citizens.
Just in one hour ago: "NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/
It's hard to keep things secret.
edit: btw these are the videos i wanted you guys to watch:
A Brief History of the USA - Bowling for Columbine - Michael Moore
What a wonderfull world
To add to the point that like the movie portrays, the US has always been "scared."
This Babylon:
Al the latter video is the exact reason behind my logic, we do so much bad shit its not even funny, its like noone gives a fuck anymore and its all about personal gain/ the gains of the country rather than gains to the world society as a whole. If they did that much shit, what makes you think they wont do it over here for their own political power / dominance to further support their own greed?